[Talk-ca] Revisiting exits with “names” in Ontario and Quebec

[Jherome Miguel]

It's not only a problem in 400-series highway, Toronto expressway and
Quebec autoroute exits. I have also seen "names" on interchanges and
right-in, right-outs on other Ontario highways like Highway 11 between
Barrie and North Bay, and Highway 115 between Newcastle and Peterborough,
as well as other freeway and expressway-grade roads elsewhere (e.g. part of
Highbury Ave connecting with the 401 in London, the Red Hill Valley Parkway
around Hamilton).

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:46 PM Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, those "names" are largely map clutter especially in urban areas and
> where multiple values are used. There is no problem with navigation
> instructions, and it's becoming clear "names" are mostly an attempt to make
> exit destinations visible at the expense of other information, especially
> at closer zoom levels.
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> Jherome,
>>
>> Si je compares l'autoroute 417 vers Ottawa, j'observe les même
>> conventions qu'au Québec pour numéroter les sorties en km à partir du début
>> de l'autoroute (Frontière du Québec pour la 417).  L'ajout du nom sur la
>> node de la sortie est de toute évidence pour le rendu, mais au détriment de
>> tous les autres éléments. Cela rend difficile de repérer le no. de sortie
>> et en milieu urbain ces noms de lieux encombrent la carte rendant illisible
>> le reste.
>>
>> Lorsque je donne des instructions à quelqu'un je donne toujours les
>> instructions
>> 1. le no. de sortie ( node highway
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:highway?uselang=fr>
>> motorway_junction
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway=motorway%20junction?uselang=fr>
>> )
>> 2. ensuite suivre en direction de tel lieu ou route ( chemin highway
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:highway?uselang=fr>
>> motorway_link
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway=motorway%20link?uselang=fr>,
>> destination ...  )
>>
>> Et c'est ce que font les outils de navigation. Ils indiquent d'abord le
>> no. de sortie ( node highway
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:highway?uselang=fr>
>> motorway_junction
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway=motorway%20junction?uselang=fr>)
>> et ensuite le nom de la destination sur bretelle de sortie, là où doivent
>> apparaitre les noms ( chemin highway
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:highway?uselang=fr>
>> motorway_link
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway=motorway%20link?uselang=fr>
>> ).
>>
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 10 mai 2021 14 h 55 min 48 s UTC−4, Jherome Miguel <
>> jheromemiguel at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>
>> It may not be a tagging for the renderer issue, but it also has something
>> to do with Ontarians saying “(road name) exit” instead of “exit (number)”
>> as in Western Canada. Don't know how do Québécois refer to autoroute exits.
>>
>
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