[Talk-ca] First Nations reserve naming

[Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais]

I would suggest to :
1. Revert the changes
2. Get the official namings from the map on https://geo.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/cippn-fnpim/index-eng.html
3. On a case-by-case, contact the appropriate nations and ask them if the official name is correct, and how they would call themselves officially in an international context (osm) in english, french, and in their own language (name:en, name:fr, and name:NATION_LANG).
3b: use custom tags or alt_name tags to add specific names that you know of. Or use the note or fixme tags to explain how you would change the names and propose new names with references/sources.

If you continue to insult yourselves here, people will just ignore your messages and we may even loose valuable members from the osm community in our communications.

Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais
OSM username: ChaireMobiliteKaligrafy

> On Dec 6, 2022, at 5:21 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada could do with some of your expertise in determining the appropriate authority. I think they've been at it for a hundred or more years and still get surprised.
>
> A few years ago, I think it was working with a group of Indigenous people in Ontario we were assisting with economic development sort of have a free sawmill. The problem was we were unable to get agreement from Indigenous people. It turned out that the appropiate authority in this case lived in B.C. and wouldn't see any economic benefit.
>
> Determining who has the authority to speak on a matter isn't always straight forward.
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> Cheerio John
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022, 16:38 Michael Stark <michael60634 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hoser, please stop being an asshole. You truly are the definition of your username.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022, 3:03 PM James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> long story short we should revert these changesets
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022, 3:47 PM Hoser AB <hoserab1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Ooooh boy, hahaha...
>>>>
>>>> So what you're saying Michael is that you contacted someone in order to "do your research" but didn't bother waiting for a response before blazing ahead with whatever changes you wanted to make anyway. Not unlike your earlier appeal in a changeset comment to "consensus on the talk-ca mail list" where there was/is none.
>>>>
>>>> When someone from the nation responds that they make no distinction, and it's all "Tsúùt’ínà" in their language and "Tsuut'ina" (categorically no space) in English... then what? Are you going to ignore it because it's not the answer you were looking for? Are you going to ignore it because it's the answer I already gave you, but I'm a big meanie and you don't like me?
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