[Talk-ee] suspicious roundabout-like ways added

Mihkel Rämmel rm87 at hot.ee
Wed Mar 16 14:42:33 GMT 2011


Üldisem küsimus: Kas on mingi kirja template olemas, mida saata uutele
kasutajatele, kes paistavad hädas olevat ja teevad kaardistamisel
midagi väga valesti. See template võiks tutvustada kommuuni, ning
sisaldada algajatele vajalike lehekülgede aadresse. Kui sellist
template't varnast võtta ei ole, kas leidub keegi hea kirjutaja, kes
selle kolmes keeles valmis kirjutaks?

Kuna ma sattusin sama kasutaja tehtud ringteid eile parandama võin
öelda, et kuut peaaegu ühtivat ringi ühe joonega ükski kasutaja
käsitsi joonistatud ei saa. Järelikult oli tegemist mingi potlatch 2
veaga, mis võimaldas sellist asja teha.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rich <richlv atnakts.net> wrote:
> On 03/16/11 09:40, Andres Kaaber wrote:
>>
>> 2011/3/15 Jaak Laineste<jaak atopenstreetmap.ee>:
>>>
>>> Hi Rich,
>>>
>>>> i'm resending this message after subscribing to this list. in addition
>>>> to
>>>> the issues below i'd like to report my email being ignored by moderator
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> This is my mistake. The list bouncing list has tens of spam emails
>>> each week, yours is probably all times second or third one which was
>>> actually not spam. Therefore these get easily overlooked. I try to
>>> review bounce list once a week or two.
>
> thanks for the speedy answer :)
>
>>>> 1. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100339092/history
>>>>
>>>> a) it is overlapping 3 times;
>>>> b) it is not connected to other ways;
>>>> c) there are no uploaded traces to confirm existence of such a feature;
>>>> d) my trace from yesterday and other uploaded traces seem to cross it in
>>>> a
>>>> straight line :)
>>>>
>>>> a such this is highly suspect :)
>>>
>>> This roundabout should be there. For Estonia we have permission from
>>> National Land Board (Maaamet) to use their WMS maps and detailed
>>> aerials. These should be listed in JOSM WMS/TMS plugins also. If not,
>>> then there are instructions in
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Et:Beginners_Guide_1.1.2 which has
>>> WMS URL. Their aerials can be several years old, and city streets are
>>> rebuilt each year, so cannot trust them really 100%. But in this case
>>> it seems that the info matches with aerials at least. Of course
>>> technically it must be connected to other ways.
>>>
>> I checked today with one of the local people and they say there is a
>> roundabout but it is somewhat "virtual" :) it is painted on the street
>> and right now there is no way to see it. But still there are 3 circles
>> which has to be corrected, thnx.
>
> thank you all - i'll leave it up to you to fix it all logically and
> technically then :)
>
> may i also ask you to contact the mapper in question and introduce to the
> -ee community ? i would probably not be in the best position to do so
> anyway.
>
>>>> 2. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100350809/history
>>>>
>>>> a) overlaps the other street;
>>>> b) one attached way not attached on the other end;
>>>> c) no uploaded traces that confirm its existence
>>>>
>>>> also quite suspect (and i guess xybot already fixed it a bit).
>>>
>>>  I compared with aerial, and did not really match with it. But last
>>> time when I was driving somewhere around this area last summer I
>>> remember major constructions, so aerials are most probably outdated.
>>> Tags/node issues can be of course wrong just accidentally.
>>
>> I can confirm the constructions and plans for roundabout.
>>>
>>>> 3. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26252364/history
>>>>
>>>> a) added area=yes to a non-area street;
>>>> b) added lots of other, redundant tags. and possibly some incorrect ones
>>>> as
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> You are correct, these seem to be technical errors. Feel free to fix
>>> them, and/or send PM to the editor. He/she seems to be quite new to
>>> OSM, so perhaps just accidents. If you use some template-based editor
>>> (potlatch2, josm) which has fields for all the parameters, then
>>> over-cautious editor may try to actually fill all of them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jaak Laineste
>
> --
>  Rich
>
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