[Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre

Lun Dic 15 12:36:11 UTC 2014

Según mi último recuerdo sobre este tema, es que la información de catastro
no sirve para sacar las direcciones correctas [1]. Desconozco si se habrá
solucionado.

Saludos, Andrés.

[1]
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Catastro-duda-nombres-de-calles-td5777261.html

2014-12-15 3:59 GMT+01:00 Tom Lee <tlee en mapbox.com>:
>
> Ha -- thank you, Agustín and Cruz. This is tremendously helpful. From the
> decree, it seems that cadastral data is free for use in general, which I
> think much include the INSPIRE data (if that is incorrect, please do let me
> know). Working with 7000+ GML files will not be a lot of fun, but I think I
> can use this to add the data to OpenAddresses. Thanks very much!
>
> Tom
>
>
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>>    3. Re: access to Spanish cadastre (Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez)
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>> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:33:57 -0500
>> From: Tom Lee <tlee en mapbox.com>
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>> Subject: [Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre
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>> I've recently been researching Spain's cadastral database, which quickly
>> led to the work done on cat2osm and other projects by people on this list.
>> However, I find myself confused. I believe that links to bulk downloads of
>> the data exist on this page:
>>
>> https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv
>>
>> In fact, it is discussed in some detail on this OSM wiki page:
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catastro
>>
>> But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509 certificate.
>> I
>> wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this requirement o a
>> non-Spanish
>> citizen? I realize that some elements of the database related to land
>> value
>> and ownership are sensitive, but I don't believe that these bulk downloads
>> include such data. The license terms associated with this data seem to be
>> quite open (
>>
>> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110323_tfs.pdf
>> ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding.
>>
>> Any insights are much appreciated.
>>
>> Tom
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>> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:15:46 +0100
>> From: Agustín <agustindiez en gmail.com>
>> To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap
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>> > On 12 Dec 2014, at 19:33, Tom Lee <tlee en mapbox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've recently been researching Spain's cadastral database, which
>> quickly led to the work done on cat2osm and other projects by people on
>> this list. However, I find myself confused. I believe that links to bulk
>> downloads of the data exist on this page:
>> >
>> > https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv <
>> https://www.sedecatastro.gob.es/OVCFrames.aspx?TIPO=TIT&a=masiv>
>> >
>> > In fact, it is discussed in some detail on this OSM wiki page:
>> >
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catastro
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm#Descargar_datos_de_Catastro>
>> >
>> > But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509
>> certificate. I wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this requirement
>> o a non-Spanish citizen? I realize that some elements of the database
>> related to land value and ownership are sensitive, but I don't believe that
>> these bulk downloads include such data. The license terms associated with
>> this data seem to be quite open (
>> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110323_tfs.pdf
>> <
>> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110323_tfs.pdf>
>> ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding.
>> Well this is the Spanish government, I guess. Requirements even if there
>> are a non-sense, are quiet clear.
>> Para descargar los ficheros de catastro es necesario tener DNI-e <
>> http://www.dnielectronico.es/>, obtener el certificado e instalar los
>> drivers <http://www.dnielectronico.es/descargas/index.html> del lector y
>> dni-e. También es posible sin DNI-e mediante un certificado electrónico de
>> usuario expedido por la FNMT <
>> http://www.cert.fnmt.es/index.php?cha=cit&sec=4> instalado en el
>> navegador.
>> What, in short, means that you’re out of luck is you aren’t either
>> Spanish or pay your taxes here.
>> By the way there is a project to import all this data to ism but we’re
>> negotiating with the import list. If you want some data in particular. I’m
>> sure that in this list there is a bunch of people willing to provide them
>> to you. You’re welcome to join their efforts to import the cadastre data.
>> >
>> > Any insights are much appreciated.
>> >
>> > Tom
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>> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:28:20 +0100
>> From: Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez <cruz.borges en deusto.es>
>> To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap
>>         <talk-es en openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-es] access to Spanish cadastre
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>> You need a valid ID electronic card (DNI-e) to download ANY data from the
>> cadestre
>> database. Moreover, you have to fill a form where you have to provide
>> your localizacion,
>> work and the amount of € that the use of that particular dataset have
>> save in the
>> project (when applicable). Even more, there are data that they have, but
>> they not provide
>> in any case. Those are the rules set by the cadestre.
>>
>> If you ask me why they set that rules: I DON'T KNOW AND I WOULD RATHER
>> PREFER
>> NOT TO ASK ;) (it a thing that could ONLY be worse).
>>
>> On the other hand, the cadestre information of Spain are accessible now
>> thorough
>> this portal:
>>
>>
>> http://blog-idee.blogspot.com.es/2014/03/actualizacion-de-los-datos-de-descarga.html
>>
>> fulfilling the INSPIRE directive. I have not tested myself, but seems
>> that the data
>> format its different and cannot be used with cat2osm2 [1]. In any case,
>> please note
>> that cat2osm is DEPRECATED and should not be used for anything.
>>
>> In any case, good luck using the cadestre data ;)
>> cruz.
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cat2Osm2
>>
>> > But when I attempt a download, it seems that I need an X.509
>> certificate. I
>> > wonder if anyone can explain the nature of this requirement o a
>> non-Spanish
>> > citizen? I realize that some elements of the database related to land
>> value
>> > and ownership are sensitive, but I don't believe that these bulk
>> downloads
>> > include such data. The license terms associated with this data seem to
>> be
>> > quite open (
>> >
>> http://www.catastro.minhap.es/ayuda/legislacion/ovc/resoluciondgc20110323_tfs.pdf
>> > ), which makes this requirement all the more confounding.
>>
>> --
>> Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández
>> Email: cruz.borges en deusto.es
>>
>> DeustoTech Energy
>> Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052
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>> 48007 Bilbao, Spain
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