[Talk-gb-westmidlands] NAPTAN bus stop database

Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrlists at googlemail.com
Tue Feb 10 11:08:43 GMT 2009


If the discussion is posted to the Dev list I'm sure someone will poke their
head above the parapet.

Cheers

Andy

>-----Original Message-----
>From: talk-gb-westmidlands-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
>westmidlands-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Brian Prangle
>Sent: 10 February 2009 11:07 AM
>To: Christoph Böhme
>Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NAPTAN bus stop database
>
>Hi everyone
>
>Thanks Chrstoph - we really need one other person for resilience purposes -
>also helps to have someone else to fathom out problems. spot errors etc.
>
>I understand what you're saying about West Midlands only and I agree we
>should only import and test there. However whatever we do has to be a
>template that can work and be rolled out everywhere in the UK, so I think
>we're going to need a modicum of discussion and involvement at the outset.
>
>Let's get someone else to assist you first and then I'll contact Peter
>
>
>2009/2/9 Christoph Böhme <christoph at b3e.net>
>
>
>	Hi,
>
>	this sounds like a great project to keep me busy now that the
website
>	is kind of finished. I would be happy to contribute with some
coding.
>
>	I share Andy's objection on a wide area import. It will probably add
>a
>	lot of complexity due to more people being involved and it will
>become
>	difficult to monitor how the NAPTAN data integrates into the map in
>	different areas. So, I rather prefer to do a test in Birmingham and
>	see how this works before pouring bus stops over the whole country.
>
>	Christoph
>
>	Brian Prangle <bprangle at googlemail.com> schrieb:
>
>
>	> Hi everyone
>	>
>	> I had a long chat with Peter Miller of ITOWorld today who is a
mine
>of
>	> information and contacts regarding public transport both in the UK
>and
>	> internationally. He reckons we could have a copy of the NAPTAN
>	> database within about a week. It has approx 350K items and
requires
>	> someone to generate some code to import a subset of the data ( we
>	> can't import everything for commercial reasons) and tag it
>suitably.
>	> The code would have to be able to cope with weekly imports and
>	> eventually daily imports ( apparently there are about 100 changes
a
>	> day.  Peter is pleased we ( well me, really) are showing an
>interest
>	> and I offered to project manage the import and management as I
>can't
>	> code. Christophe and Ciaran are you up for this? Or have you any
>pals
>	> in the Linux/computer science areas that would like to have a
crack
>	> at  this- all code would be opensource. We could just import W
Mids
>	> to start with to perfect the technique of de-duping existing
>	> bus-stops, or go for a big-bang approach - needs to be discussed.
>	> Peter could find us a technical liaison. Opportunity to make a big
>	> contribution (and a big splash!) to OSM nationally and potentially
>	> internationally as there are loads of similar bus stop databases
>	> around the world complete with a  US vs Europe standards battle at
>	> the ISO.
>	>
>	> Regards
>	>
>	> Brian
>	>
>
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