[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

[Brian Prangle]

+1 to Andy that's my point entirely!


On 14 November 2013 07:37, Andy Robinson <ajrlists at gmail.com> wrote:

> Since this information is already in the naptan tags why would we need to
> add it again under some other, eg name, tag?
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthijs Melissen [mailto:info at matthijsmelissen.nl]
> Sent: 14 November 2013 01:41
> To: talk-gb-westmidlands
> Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> > Generally I don't think adding names to bus stops adds anything to the
> > map other than when it is an Interchange name- so they're the only ones I
> name.
> > Why? Generally because adding a name consisting of a street name where
> > the street name is already on the map I consider to be cartographic
> > clutter and totally redundant.  Common names also tend to duplicate
> > features that are already named on the map and so are not really
> > needed.  For transport applications the data is there to be used - no
> need
> to add it in a name.
>
> To be honest, I don't agree with you there. Tagging for the renderer (not
> giving bus stops names because it would create a clutter) is usually seen
> as
> a bad idea, and I believe that's the case here as well.
>
> First, on the one hand the default rendering doesn't display bus stop names
> anyway, so there it wouldn't become a clutter. On the other hand, the
> Transport Map layer displays bus stops names on low zoom level, and street
> names only on the highest levels, so there the bus stop names would be
> useful to get an overview.
>
> Also don't forget that we are not creating a map, we are creating a
> geographical database. For example, you might want to ask your software for
> the closest bus stop. It would be nice if you could then get the bus stop
> name as an answer, for which the name tags are necessary. Or for example,
> you might want to generate a list of all stops of a given bus route, for
> which you also need the stop names.
>
> Also, not all common names are named after features already on the map
> (some
> are called 'middle' for example).
>
> For now, I think the best scheme I can think of would be "StreetName,
> CommonName". That would follow the name on the signs, except that we use a
> comma where there is a line break on the shield.
>
> -- Matthijs
>
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