[Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

[Craig Loftus]

Andrew <wynndale at lavabit.com> wrote:
> There is essentially no difference post-relicensing between data derived from an
> unrelicensable source and mapping that is not relicensed because people cannot
> be contacted. Planet dumps from the CC-by-SA era are a non-issue because they
> remain wholly under the Creative Commons licence; post-relicensing history dumps
> omit both sets ofdata.

I'm not very up on this issue as I simply don't have time to keep up
with all the shed painting and flaming going on in the talk and legal
lists; from that stand point, Andrew seems to be talking more sense.

David Groom <reviews at ...> writes:
> Partly as I said in my earlier email, the CT's talk about data you have
> added, not data which still exists.

Other than some anal interpretation of a single word and hand waving a
real reason hasn't been given for why all elements tagged source*=OS_*
can't just be deleted, then those of us who know we use source tags
can escape having *all* our contributions banished to some dark fork.

I can't figure out via email whether it's that, people who have of the
forbidden fruit (OS data) are being punished or we're being steered to
object to the license shift? Either way, I would prefer talk-gb were
kept ignorant of these issues.

Craig

On 22 August 2010 21:29, Andrew <wynndale at lavabit.com> wrote:
> David Groom <reviews at ...> writes:
>
>> Oh , if only it were that simple.
>>
>> Partly as I said in my earlier email, the CT's talk about data you have
>> added, not data which still exists.
>>
>> But more importantly your contributions would still remain in all the planet
>> dumps, so I presume you'd be relying on the "database people" to remove the
>> data from them as well.  Probably a time consuming task, but potentially
>> do-able.  But then there are all the copies of the planet dumps held on
>> other peoples computers.  Should the "database people" ask for all of them
>> to be returned so they can be cleaned?
>>
>> You see data you add to OSM cant easily be removed.
>>
>> David
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>
> I still see no problem.
>
> There is essentially no difference post-relicensing between data derived from an
> unrelicensable source and mapping that is not relicensed because people cannot
> be contacted. Planet dumps from the CC-by-SA era are a non-issue because they
> remain wholly under the Creative Commons licence; post-relicensing history dumps
> omit both sets ofdata.
>
> --
> Andrew
>
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