[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

[Peter Miller]

On 9 June 2011 17:53, Graham Stewart <graham at dalmuti.net> wrote:
>
>> If you import data into an area that doesn't already have an active
>> community, the community will spring up more slowly or not at all.
>
> But that logic suggests that we should actively *discourage* people from
> doing any mapping, as an overly complete map discourages "community".
>
> In reality there is still plenty to do in areas that have achieved 100%
> road coverage. I strongly doubt that the UK community will disintegrate
> if we ever get the whole country close to 100% roads. And I don't think
> that fear should hinder us from trying to get to that point.
>
>
>> ..Worcester was growing
>> nicely until the OSSV fairies arrived: there's still a little activity,
>> but the rich map is no longer growing at the rate it was.
>
> I took a look out of interest. Worcester is a mass of grey roads:
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=117&lat=52.19568481654745&lon=-2.2034480483935286&zoom=13

According to OSM Mapper Worcester has been developing nicely over a
couple of years.

Fyi, the most active mapper is this srbrook. "Mapper since: 14 October
2009 at 20:30 (over 1 year ago). Description: I'm Steve and have been
mapping in the south Worcester, UK area since October 2009. For more
details of what I've been up to see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Srbrook

The second most active in Jenuk1985 who joined in 2008 and stopped
editing in the area over a year ago but is now busy to the west of
B'ham.

The third most active mapper who again stopped editing in the area
over a year ago is called Richard and seems to be closely involved in
Potlatch!

Here are the stats for the top 10 contributors in the town:
srbrook 	1565 	0 	1565
Jenuk1985 	661 	0 	661
Richard 	397 	0 	397
iccaldwell 	164 	0 	164
Ted Pottage 	151 	0 	151
LivingWithDragons 	58 	0 	58
Steve Chilton 	56 	0 	56
Higgy 	55 	0 	55
i4one 	41 	0 	41
Phil M 	38 	0 	38

These Don't look like an 'OSSV fairy' to me. Or possibly there
something is being kept from us :)


Regards,


Peter

>
> So there doesn't seem much evidence of "OSSV fairies" there. (Or at
> least not with proper source tag).
> But Worcester does seem to have a nice detailed map. Plenty of foot and
> cycle paths, parks etc most of which won't have come from any OS
> product.
> Have the local mappers actually stopped mapping or have they just moved
> onto nearby areas that are more in need of attention?
>
>
> Ed said:
>> It can help us to boost our map from 'excellent in parts,
>> almost blank in others' to 'usable everywhere, excellent in many places'.  Then
>> as OSM becomes widely adopted, mapping parties and other contribution become a
>> much easier proposition: rather than 'help out with this geeky new hobby' it
>> becomes 'hey! you can contribute to the map you are already using!'.
>
> Complete agree.
> For every 1000 users getting taken on a 20 mile wild goose chase by
> their satnav I'd be willing to bet that 999 are left cursing the name of
> OpenStreetMap and maybe one decides to become a contributor and do
> something about it. That's not how you win people over!
>
>
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