[Talk-GB] Cycle lanes and Cycle Tracks - how to map

rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
Wed May 16 19:54:42 BST 2012


Haha, I only mean well :-)

The issue came about from trying to improve the guidance provided on the UK  
tagging guidelines. Currently I have copied over the guidance that already  
existed (to the consultation page), however this was very limited and has  
already had cries that foot=no is not correct.

Now I can easily improve this section to draw a distinction about  
cycleway=lane when the cycle path is _within_ the carriageway (with some  
images). However there are 2 methods for cycle tracks alongside a road but  
not within the carriageway. Question to talk-gb is do we in the UK have a  
preference? If not then we need to discuss this on the wiki page and stress  
that "just map it" regardless of non-consensus.

Note: One thought on left / right is that mappers have to realise that a  
road has a direction (as it is drawn as an "arrow"). From my conversations  
with new mappers this (and the similar Forward/Backward) is not understood  
as we tend to think in terms of northbound / southbound / east / west.

Cheers,
Rob

ps For transparency I am currently thinking that the highway=* &  
cycleway=track combination is a good start but we should be aiming to map  
the cycle track as separate from the highway using a highway=cycleway (or  
path) way.



On , Richard Mann <richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com> wrote:
> Gosh, you are a glutton for punishment.

> cycleway=track is used extensively in some countries
> highway=cycleway is use extensively in some countries
> cycleway=track was only rendered on OCM relatively recently

> cycleway:left|right=track|lane isn't rendered on OCM
> the Danes had a big argument about which to use and settled on  
> cycleway=track, despite it not being rendered on OCM
> cycleway=track gives you more control over the rendering

> highway=cycleway is easier to route, though unpacking cycleway=track  
> isn't difficult
> sub-tagging of cycleways is difficult (eg their membership of a route  
> relation) if you use cycleway=track


> In essence it comes down to the problem that recombining two parallel  
> ways in order to render them neatly is next-to-impossible. Whereas  
> putting the tags on a single way loses some micro-geography.


> I'd go for cycleway=track, but I'm not prepared to go round deleting  
> highway=cycleway, and thus having lots of stuff disappear in OCM. So  
> until OCM can render cycleway:left|right properly, we're probably stuck  
> with both.


> Richard



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