[Talk-GB] European Walking Route E2 / Staffordshire Way / Viking Way

Brian Prangle bprangle at gmail.com
Wed Jan 9 15:54:44 GMT 2013

I've no idea who's behind the relation E2 even though the Heart of England
Way which I walked the whole length and edited a lot of it is designated E2
from end to end - it was added to the relation after I'd completed my
editing. I have seen an E2 marker post although I forgot to take a photo!
Probably because I was so so surprised to see an EU symbol in the
countryside. Once I discovered the HoEW was part of a super-relation - I
left well alone - although I think I might have added bits of the
Staffordshire Way around Alton Towers and some of the GR5



On 9 January 2013 01:09, SomeoneElse <lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone know what's going on with European Walking Route E2?
> I first spotted it when someone split the Staffordshire Way into 3 and
> added the middle relation to a new E2 super-relation.  I found that a bit
> odd, but no odder than adding unsigned C-road references to the map.
> I've recently looked again and found that that super-relation is no more
> and a new series have been created:
> West Midlands:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/relation/1976230<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1976230>
> (contains lots of the individual ways that also form the Staffordshire
> Way, and some others)
> East Midlands:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/relation/1976182<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1976182>
> (contains lots of the individual ways that also form the Viking Way, and
> some others)
> These are in turn part of:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/relation/1959505<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1959505>
> which consists of:
> Way Lower Lees Road (153526213)
> Way Henley Road (147988092)
> Way Henley Road (147988091)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, West Midlands (1976230)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, South East England (1976229)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, East of England (1976183)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, Yorkshire and the Humber (1976184)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, East Midlands (1976182)
> Way Preston Road (152559211)
> (a curious mixture of ways and relations)
> which is in turn part of:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/relation/1956169<http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1956169>
> which is a European E2 super-relation.  Here "operator:uk" is defined as
> "Long Distance Walkers Association", which also seems odd.
> But E2 isn't mentioned here at all:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/WikiProject_Europe/Long-**
> distance_paths<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/Long-distance_paths>
> The West Midlands part of E2 seems to miss the last 6-months's updates
> that I've made to the Staffordshire Way, which would suggest that defining
> this bit of E2 in terms of the middle bit of the Staffordshire Way would
> save whoever's updating it the job of manually editing it.
> It's the same with the East Midlands piece, as can be seen here:
> http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.**org/en/?zoom=11&lat=53.08111&**
> lon=-0.68741&hill=0<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=11&lat=53.08111&lon=-0.68741&hill=0>
> Does anyone know where this mystery E2 is coming from?  I'm sure there are
> lots of sources on the web, but are any of them suitably licenced for
> inclusion in OSM?  I don't believe that I have ever (on the Staffordshire
> Way or the Viking Way) seen an E2 signpost on the ground.
> Cheers,
> Andy
> (this question was prompted by me trying to update
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Staffordshire_Way#**Progress<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Staffordshire_Way#Progress>to say something sensible)
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