[Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

Oliver Jowett oliver.jowett at gmail.com
Fri Aug 1 14:32:29 UTC 2014


Right - I was just trying to understand which was the canonical source. One
of the things I've been wanting to try (but never have the time) is repair
the OSM bus route relations based on the TNDS schedule info - which sounds
very much like your track-finding system. But that gets dangerous if TNDS
is indirectly pulling data from OSM itself..

Oliver


On 1 August 2014 14:20, Stuart Reynolds <stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk>
wrote:

>  Oliver,
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> TNDS data (Traveline National Data Set, for other’s benefit - national set
> of bus & coach timetables) does not currently have the route detail - known
> in TransXChange as tracks. This is because up to now there have been issues
> of IPR with OSGR coordinates derived from OS and/or Navteq data.
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> Certainly from our point of view - and by “us” I mean the traveline
> regions of South East, London, East Anglia, South West, East Midlands and
> (shortly) West Midlands - we are all now on a merged system using OSM data
> so those problems have gone away. But I still won’t be exporting Tracks
> until TNDS asks me to.
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> Even then, it still has the issues of “is this right”. Most of the time it
> is, but we do get some routes which find a shorter path along a back street
> rather than down the main road.
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> Cheers
>
> Stuart
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> *From:* Oliver Jowett [mailto:oliver.jowett at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 01 August 2014 1:51 PM
> *To:* Stuart Reynolds
>
> *Cc:* Talk GB
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import
>
>
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> On 1 August 2014 11:17, Stuart Reynolds <stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk>
> wrote:
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>   In terms of bus routes, we also compute the most likely route between
> stops, and could use that to update the services on each link. But that is
> a whole different ball game - we have to make sure our data is good
> quality, and I will need to think what to do when a bus turns off halfway
> along a road that is mapped as one line, for example, - and I’m not about
> to get into that for now! Although I would like to, eventually!
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> Where does TNDS fit into this?
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> Oliver
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