[Talk-GB] Apple trees around Cambridge

tshrub my-email-confirmation at online.de
Mon Dec 8 16:29:30 UTC 2014


hi,

SK53 schrieb:
> Regarding your suggestion of brand as a tag: this was exactly why I
> suggested the taxon tag rather than species long ago.
I read about that. Taxon is less "common spelling" and wouldn't work on 
that reason, I think. Everyone knows, what species are. Its more easygoing.




>
> Japanese flowering cherries have such complicated genetics that the
> species they originate from is not clear.They are therefore referred to
> in the botanical and horticultural literature as follows /"Prunus
> /'Kanzan'; for apples we can use "/Malus domestica/ 'Bramley Seedling'"
> or "/Malus domestica/ 'MacIntosh'" (for fanbois), but note "/Malus
> /"Granny Smith'" because its precise specific origin is not known
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Smith>.
I would never say that I'm realy sure, particularly in that 
genetic-based nomenclatura-reformation times.


species=Malus
or
species=Malus spec.
or
species=Malus domestica
brand=Bramley Seedling

brand=MacIntosh

brand=Granny Smith

isn't it suffice and handsome?



may be an additional tag for
"sitting on an rootstock"=
or for an company an additional one
label=Mr. Blingblang




>
> Plants have specific conventions for naming (think how OSM will look
> after 250 years of tagging): ICBN for wild plants and ICNCP for
> cultivated ones. We are best sticking with these.
a nomenclatura
OSM is no botanical database (another job), but can become connected 
therewith.






>
> Even if the trees planted are named on the labels, experience shows that
> plant nurseries are not infallible (we have a purported Cork Oak which
> is /Quercus robur/ in our local arboretum).
yes.
Thats our assignment than? :)






best,
t.


>
> Jerry
>
> On 8 December 2014 at 14:17, tshrub
> <my-email-confirmation at online.de
> <mailto:my-email-confirmation at online.de>>
> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     SK53 schrieb:
>
>         Hi Dan,
>
>         I've had enough trouble with cherry trees on the north side of
>         Cambridge: you really need flowers, leaves & fruit to be able to
>         do them
>         properly! Some are flowering cherries (loosely /Prunus serratula/,
>         others are passable eaters or jam makers, so presumably cultivars of
>         /Prunus avium/); and plenty are on a /Prunus avium/ rootstock
>         even if
>         other kinds of cherry.
>
>
>     but when its a project and their talking about varieties, there will
>     be a contact person, how knows specie, variety, sort
>
>     natural:tree
>     type=broad_leafed
>     species=Prunus avium
>     species:en=Cherry
>     height=8.5
>
>
>     and I think very importend is, to fix or remember or register the
>     kind or *sort of fruit*, because there are so many and often they
>     become forgotten by time.
>
>
>     simular for beer with brewery=
>
>     may be use a tag like
>     brand=
>     for the predominant aspect.
>
>     and
>     brand:rootstock=
>
>
>     may be, we should add it to the tree-wiki-tag?
>     (upcomming, in times of genetic 'illusions' or 'hightspreads' ;)  )
>
>
>
>
>
>     see too:
>     <http://mundraub.org/map>
>
>
>     and additional:
>     picking=self
>     fee=no
>
>
>
>
>     best,
>     t.
>
>
>
>
>         Jerry
>
>         On 7 December 2014 at 20:09, Dan S
>         <danstowell+osm at gmail.com
>         <mailto:danstowell%2Bosm at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:danstowell+osm at gmail.__com
>         <mailto:danstowell%2Bosm at gmail.com>>>
>         wrote:
>
>              Hi all,
>
>              I heard of something that will be fun for someone who likes
>         mapping
>              trees!
>
>              There's a project in Cambridge that is planting many apple
>         trees, one
>              of each variety, in a pattern centred around the south of
>         Cambridge.
>              It's said to be an art project called "Cambridge Community
>              Collection":
>         http://www.__cambridgecommunitycollection.__co.uk/
>         <http://www.cambridgecommunitycollection.co.uk/>
>
>              So, some lucky people near Cambridge have an opportunity to
>         deploy
>              their advanced tree tagging skills :)
>
>              Best
>              Dan
>
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