[Talk-GB] Apple trees around Cambridge
tshrub
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Mon Dec 8 16:29:30 UTC 2014
hi,
SK53 schrieb:
> Regarding your suggestion of brand as a tag: this was exactly why I
> suggested the taxon tag rather than species long ago.
I read about that. Taxon is less "common spelling" and wouldn't work on
that reason, I think. Everyone knows, what species are. Its more easygoing.
>
> Japanese flowering cherries have such complicated genetics that the
> species they originate from is not clear.They are therefore referred to
> in the botanical and horticultural literature as follows /"Prunus
> /'Kanzan'; for apples we can use "/Malus domestica/ 'Bramley Seedling'"
> or "/Malus domestica/ 'MacIntosh'" (for fanbois), but note "/Malus
> /"Granny Smith'" because its precise specific origin is not known
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Smith>.
I would never say that I'm realy sure, particularly in that
genetic-based nomenclatura-reformation times.
species=Malus
or
species=Malus spec.
or
species=Malus domestica
brand=Bramley Seedling
brand=MacIntosh
brand=Granny Smith
isn't it suffice and handsome?
may be an additional tag for
"sitting on an rootstock"=
or for an company an additional one
label=Mr. Blingblang
>
> Plants have specific conventions for naming (think how OSM will look
> after 250 years of tagging): ICBN for wild plants and ICNCP for
> cultivated ones. We are best sticking with these.
a nomenclatura
OSM is no botanical database (another job), but can become connected
therewith.
>
> Even if the trees planted are named on the labels, experience shows that
> plant nurseries are not infallible (we have a purported Cork Oak which
> is /Quercus robur/ in our local arboretum).
yes.
Thats our assignment than? :)
best,
t.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 8 December 2014 at 14:17, tshrub
> <my-email-confirmation at online.de
> <mailto:my-email-confirmation at online.de>>
> wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> SK53 schrieb:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I've had enough trouble with cherry trees on the north side of
> Cambridge: you really need flowers, leaves & fruit to be able to
> do them
> properly! Some are flowering cherries (loosely /Prunus serratula/,
> others are passable eaters or jam makers, so presumably cultivars of
> /Prunus avium/); and plenty are on a /Prunus avium/ rootstock
> even if
> other kinds of cherry.
>
>
> but when its a project and their talking about varieties, there will
> be a contact person, how knows specie, variety, sort
>
> natural:tree
> type=broad_leafed
> species=Prunus avium
> species:en=Cherry
> height=8.5
>
>
> and I think very importend is, to fix or remember or register the
> kind or *sort of fruit*, because there are so many and often they
> become forgotten by time.
>
>
> simular for beer with brewery=
>
> may be use a tag like
> brand=
> for the predominant aspect.
>
> and
> brand:rootstock=
>
>
> may be, we should add it to the tree-wiki-tag?
> (upcomming, in times of genetic 'illusions' or 'hightspreads' ;) )
>
>
>
>
>
> see too:
> <http://mundraub.org/map>
>
>
> and additional:
> picking=self
> fee=no
>
>
>
>
> best,
> t.
>
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
> On 7 December 2014 at 20:09, Dan S
> <danstowell+osm at gmail.com
> <mailto:danstowell%2Bosm at gmail.com>
> <mailto:danstowell+osm at gmail.__com
> <mailto:danstowell%2Bosm at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I heard of something that will be fun for someone who likes
> mapping
> trees!
>
> There's a project in Cambridge that is planting many apple
> trees, one
> of each variety, in a pattern centred around the south of
> Cambridge.
> It's said to be an art project called "Cambridge Community
> Collection":
> http://www.__cambridgecommunitycollection.__co.uk/
> <http://www.cambridgecommunitycollection.co.uk/>
>
> So, some lucky people near Cambridge have an opportunity to
> deploy
> their advanced tree tagging skills :)
>
> Best
> Dan
>
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