[Talk-GB] Confirmation of Rights of Way tags

[Pierre Riteau]

Some information about permissive paths:



- [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wales#Pe
rmissive_path

- [2]http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/publicrightsofwayadvice_tc
m6-13878.pdf (end of page 2)



Apparently in some places they can be marked with a white arrow.



On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, at 06:51 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote:

  @Nick: When we discussed how to tag the yellow arrow on its own the
  general conclusion was that "it depends on the normal practice off
  the local authority". AndyS cautioned that some permissive paths can
  be tagged just with a yellow arrow.

  @Jerry: The issue you refer to is a consequence of the way the
  designation tag was previously described in potlatch2. A clean up
  would be nice at some stage. It's low on my to do list at the
  moment. Help welcome. Oh, I seem to recall that 'permissive' can
  have a legal implication (I think the deal is that the landowner
  agrees to keep it open for so many days per year in exchange for a
  guarantee that the path will not be made into a public right of way
  - I would want to check this though).

  Rob

On 5 Feb 2014 10:47, "SK53" <[3]sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

I've just been looking at use of designation on [4]taginfo UK and there
are many not very appropriate uses.

The ones which stick out to me are : permissive_bridleway (if its
permissive it's not been designated), "Holiday Chalet" and "The
Co-operative Food", as well as a few obvious misues instead of a ref
tag.

It would be nice to clean some of this up as it makes the meaning of
the tag (legal/official designation) unclear.

Quite agree with Nick the yellow markers, usually with name of the
Highway Authority, are good for Public Footpath.

Jerry



On 5 February 2014 10:22, Nick Whitelegg
<[5]Nick.Whitelegg at solent.ac.uk> wrote:



One comment I will make on the tagging wiki page is that I think in the
vast majority of cases, one can assume that a yellow arrow without the
text "public footpath" *is* indeed a public footpath.

There might be a few cases where there's a yellow-colour-coded nature
trail in a country park, but these are in a minority. Certainly in open
farmland, moorland, etc yellow arrows are almost certain to be
footpaths (and blue, bridleways).



I have used the designation tag in these cases many, many times.



I think it's better to make the assumption than have an incomplete map
where many designation tags are missing. If it's then later discovered
*not* to be a right of way, the designation tag can always be removed.



Nick



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Date: 04/02/2014 11:21PM
Subject: [Talk-GB] Confirmation of Rights of Way tags


Hi,

Just to confirm, the tags for a right of way are described at

[10]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_access_provisions#Public_Righ
ts_of_Way

Basically, if its on the ground AND in the councils definitive map as a
right of way then use designation=public_footpath (or public_bridleway,
etc). You can also use this if it is on the ground AND signposted as
such. For other paths you can use suspected:designation=public_footpath
or suspected:designation=row, and we will aim to get these followed up
before 2026.

Rob
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References

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wales#Permissive_path
2. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/publicrightsofwayadvice_tcm6-13878.pdf
3. mailto:sk53.osm at gmail.com
4. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/designation#values
5. mailto:Nick.Whitelegg at solent.ac.uk
6. mailto:rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
7. mailto:nomoregrapes at googlemail.com
8. mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
9. mailto:rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
  10. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_access_provisions#Public_Rights_of_Way
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