[Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

[phil at trigpoint.me.uk]

The quoted source  of these refs is no longer available, so no easy way to check validity. 

Phil (trigpoint ) 

On Tue May 12 10:11:46 2015 GMT+0100, SomeoneElse wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote:
> > On residential roads where there has been a ref=**** added is being 
> > rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been 
> > checking recently. This is all over the highlands
> >
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282
> >
> 
> I don't think that it's a rendering change but just that someone has 
> decided to apply internal unsigned council-generated refs to these 
> roads.  If they're not signed I'd have thought that "official_ref" was 
> more appropriate here - if someone wants to render the data they can, 
> but it's no use to general map users.
> 
> It's been mentioned before:
> 
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22official_ref%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Fpipermail%2Ftalk-gb&btnG=Search&tbs=li%3A1
> 
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22admin_ref%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Fpipermail%2Ftalk-gb&btnG=Search&tbs=li%3A1
> 
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22c+roads%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Fpipermail%2Ftalk-gb&btnG=Search&tbs=li%3A1
> 
> The roads you link to have been like that for nearly a year:
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22762295
> 
> Where "C road refs" (that aren't signed, and aren't available from a 
> suitably-licensed source) have appeared locally to me I've removed them 
> though I'm aware (see the recent C-roads discussion on this list) that 
> they sometimes are signed - I've seen them myself.  With these "U" refs 
> I'd suggest that local mappers discuss with the person adding them 
> whether it's the best way to store the data.  It may be that they really 
> are signed usable references - not just something made up in a council 
> office and never used outside of there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andy
> 
> PS:  UK taginfo showing use of various "ref" tags:
> 
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=ref
> 
> 
>

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