[Talk-GB] Mapping dangerous - but valid - routes

Stuart Reynolds stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk
Mon Dec 5 16:52:47 UTC 2016


Hi Dave

Don’t disagree - just wanted to see what the community thought.

Are you Traveline?

Yes, sorry - just took out my normal footer for some reason.

Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east & anglia



On 5 Dec 2016, at 16:31, Dave F <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com<mailto:davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>> wrote:

It needs to remain. As it's clearly signed as a shared use path it's has authoritative standing.

'Dangerous' is purely subjective. Many people do 'dangerous' things such as drive too fast, take drugs or jump out of aeroplanes. OSM is not the place to quantify. Adding a 'falling rocks' sign to OSM is fine. Telling someone they can't go there because of those rocks is wrong. Your user has decided, based on experience, that he doesn't want to use it, which is fine, but he shouldn't dictate that others can't.

What would benefit OSM is if the path was detailed more accurately.

Are you Traveline?

Cheers
Dave F.

On 05/12/2016 16:12, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
Greetings

At Stirling Corner, on the A1 in Barnet, there is a cycle way (hence also available for pedestrians) that goes around the outside of the roundabout (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/78315291). A cursory glance at satellite mapping shows it to be well defined, and marked. But it will also highlight that where you cross the southbound A1 to the south of the roundabout (and likewise the northbound A1 to the north) it is highly dangerous. You have to cross three lanes of traffic, and there is always a flow of some sort, either from the A1 or from the side roads.

What is the right course of action here - leave it in, because it reflects what is on the ground, or take it out on safety grounds. This isn’t an idle question - a user of my website has stated that it is dangerous to use, and has asked me to remove it. My conclusion was to leave it in, but as it cuts to what it is that is being produced here - an accurate cartographic representation of the world, regardless, or something a little different - I thought I would ask for views.

Regards,
Stuart






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