[Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access

[Dudley Ibbett]

Hi

Many thanks for this.  I take your point about the use of an OS specific term.  It would be good to have a consensus on a suitable designation tag and an addition to the wiki on UK rights of way to cover its use.  

As suggested, I will try and contact the highways department to see if they will confirm the actual access for this particular highway.

Kind Regards

Dudley

> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:34:29 +0000
> From: robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com
> To: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access
> 
> On 13 February 2016 at 14:57, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I came across a paved single lane "road" on a recent walk that was sign
> > posted in both directions as a "Public Road" It makes a loop between two
> > "unclassified" roads.
> > Functionally, is seems to be a service route for an isolated farm that sits
> > at the top of the loop, although it would make quite an useful link road
> > between the two "unclassified" roads .  I crossed it at the top of the loop
> > so I don't know what there was with regards to signs at each end.  On the OS
> > 1:25 it is marked as "Other Routes With Public Access".  Is there anything I
> > can infer from the use of the term "Public Road".  i.e foot, horse, bicycle,
> > vehicle = yes/no? How are people tagging the "designation" of such routes,
> > i.e. are people using  "designation=other routes with public access"?
> 
> Routes marked by OS as "Other Route with Public Access" will most
> probably be routes that appear on the local Highway Authority's "List
> of Streets Maintainable at the Public Expense", but are not maintained
> to a standard for regular motor traffic. They will generally be
> Unclassified Highways (i.e. not an A, B or C road) and unless there is
> a specific Traffic Regulation Order to the contrary, there will be
> full vehicle, horse and pedestrian rights over them.
> 
> As far as tagging is concerned, I would strongly advise against
> designation="other routes with public access", designation=orpa and
> similar. The "Other Route with Public Access" is an OS-specific term,
> and even if that status hasn't been copied from OS, such tagging may
> give the impression that it may have been -- which is not something we
> want to give or accidentally encourage.
> 
> Instead, I would suggest that mappers do their best to determine the
> precise status of the route in question -- which is most likely to be
> an Unclassified Highway. Then an appropriate designation=* tag can be
> given (e.g. designation=unclassified_highway). Despite a route
> technically being an Unclassified Highway, if the route isn't suitable
> for general motor traffic, I would avoid tagging it with
> highway=unclassified -- as that would be misleading to data consumers.
> Instead I'd give it a suitable highway tag based on the physical
> condition of the route -- probably highway=track or highway=service.
> 
> Appropriate access tags should also be used (access=yes if everything
> is allowed, and foot=*, horse=*, bicycle=*, motor_vehicle=* etc if
> not) since routers and other tools shouldn't be expected to translate
> UK-specific terms into access defaults. There are some more details
> about different types of Rights of Way and the implied access rights
> at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Table
> 
> To determine the precise classification of a road/track, you'll need
> the "List of Streets Maintainable at the Public Expense" from the
> local Highway Authority (usually the County Council or Unitary
> Authority). Some councils will have online maps of their Highways, but
> these will generally be derived from OS data, and so we're unable to
> make use of them. For details about getting hold of this "List of
> Streets" and permission to re-use it in OSM, see
> http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/prow/council-docs.html . There's a
> (short) list of councils known to have given permission so far at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Information_in_the_.22List_of_Streets.22_maintained_by_local_councils
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Robert.
> 
> -- 
> Robert Whittaker
> 
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