[Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

[Dave F]

As OSM is willing to add an address/postcode to the location, I'm still 
struggling to understand the reluctance to add an fhrs:id. The FSA did 
issue the FHRS database under an open license didn't they?

General Point:
As I said before adding FHRS:ID is an ends in itself. It will allow 
sites such as 'scores on the doors' to pin point businesses accurately, 
rather than relying on the inaccurate co-ordinates in the fhrs database.

DaveF

On 23/11/2016 10:03, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Here is an example that is more like the startup business that Warin 
> mentions
>
> Chillie Sauce
> 112 Barnett Road
> Brighton
> BN1 7GH
> Business type: Other catering premises
> http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/904285/
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/SMDjwS1efVL2
>
> Regards,
>              Jez
>
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 at 09:57 Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     In Australia business have to have a legal physical address with a
>     plaque on the entry with their name.
>     Start up businesses start out using their home address for costs
>     .. plaque usually goes on the back door ... the local council has
>     the area designated for residential use and may discourage
>     business there so they are on iffy ground hence the back door plaque.
>
>     If things go well then the may get a rent on another location for
>     the 'active' part of the business ... but retain the home address
>     as the registered part just incase they find the rent too much or
>     need to move to another location. That can go on for some time.
>     Hence the register may contain a 'residential' address for a
>     business that is actually located else where. I think that maybe
>     what is going on here. Cost associated with changing the address
>     of the 'business' dissuade frequent changes - particularly on
>     startups.
>
>     A 'mobile' business .. such as a mobile caterer or a mobile
>     mechanic may not be something that needs to present on the OSM
>     map? I'd think someone looking for a mobile service would want to
>     contact them by phone .. and be best served by using a phone search.
>
>
>     On 23-Nov-16 08:34 PM, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>     Here is an example:
>>
>>     The wonderfully named "Here Today, Scone Tomorrow"
>>     http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/892292/ at 35 Sandgate
>>     Road, Brighton, BN1 6JP
>>
>>     Business type: mobile caterer
>>
>>     https://goo.gl/maps/dKVXCkPHRTo
>>
>>     Perhaps they prepare the food at their home address? or this is
>>     their official business address?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>                  Jez
>>
>>     On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 23:56 Steve Doerr <doerr.stephen at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:doerr.stephen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         There's a cupcake business locally which I suspect is a home
>>         business
>>         (as the streets in that area are only residential AFAIK). I
>>         haven't
>>         actually been there to check it out.
>>
>>         Steve
>>
>>         On 22/11/2016 15:54, Dave F wrote:
>>         > I think they're misusing 'private' where they mean 'personal'
>>         >
>>         > I've only come across instances of mobile retailers. Does
>>         anyone have
>>         > an example of a home business on the FHRS website?
>>         >
>>         > If there's only a partial address/postcode how are OSM
>>         contributors
>>         > adding them?
>>         > Are the co-ordinates provided?
>>         >
>>         > DaveF.
>>         >
>>         > On 22/11/2016 13:36, David Woolley wrote:
>>         >> On 22/11/16 12:58, Dave F wrote:
>>         >>>
>>         >>> On 21/11/2016 20:23, SK53 wrote:
>>         >>>> A bit late, but according to the FHRS manual businesses
>>         run from
>>         >>>> private addresses should be obscured (usually at the
>>         postcode district
>>         >>>> level).
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Do you have a link?
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         <https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/multimedia/pdfs/enforcement/fhrs-it-system-guidance.pdf>
>>         >> bottom of page 10.
>>         >>
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