[Talk-GB] Importing Website Data

Paul Gillard paulmgillard at gmail.com
Fri Dec 22 07:29:53 UTC 2017

Being a lone mapper up to now it's been interesting to read everyone's
comments, a good wide range of views.

Brian, to answer your question about priorities, I don't particularly have
any. My thoughts were to choose a selection of different types of company
and if see we can't work out where the low hanging fruit is based on the
responses we get. I'm open to other approaches though.

Rob Nickerson has been in touch about the help that the OSM UK chapter
could offer and we'll get a plan together for how to approach companies. If
anyone has thoughts to add on this then they're very welcome.

I'll come back if and when I get anywhere.


On 19 December 2017 at 14:46, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul thank you for suggesting this, it's certainly something as a UK
> community (and I guess more widely)we need to deal with. Unfortunately
> website data can be problematic, as others have already indicated, for us
> to use, but instead we should ask the organisations concerned to provide
> the data in a compatible format. Now that we have a formal body
> incorporated as the UK Local Chapter that should be a good vehicle for
> making the requests. Do you have an suggestions for a priority list? Does
> anyone else have any priorities?
> For those who decry the approach of using third party data, preferring
> instead the personally surveyed approach, I echo Ilya's and Warin's
> sentiments: Lloyds TSB demerged in 2013 and we still have 200 instances of
> Lloyds TSB, TA Centres became Army Reserve Centres at about the same time
> and we  still have about 40 instances of TA Centre, Shell purchased Total
> filling stations in 2012, and during the recent validation exercise on
> Shell data, name=Total was the commonest error. What about the the
> wholesale closure and transfer  of Post Offices or the planned closure of
> thousands of BT phone boxes?  We don't have the number of motivated mappers
> to do this,  and expecting evrything to be ground surveyed might be a
> reason why we have such a high attrition rate; so we should emulate the
> rest of society and use automated IT methods to assist us and make our
> lives easier where appropriate. OSM is a balance between IT  imported
> data/automated edits and human ground surveys.
> Regards
> Brian
> On 18 December 2017 at 13:15, <paulmgillard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Reading all the talk of Walmart and Shell imports recently got me to
>> wondering why we can't be doing more of this kind of thing.
>> If store data can be pulled from directly from a company's public facing
>> website ('store finder' page) is there any reason we can't do such imports
>> without discussion with/permission from the company concerned?
>> Paul
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