[Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

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Despite the problems of these edits (incorrect tagging, bad polygons) more
than anything they reflect that OSM as a project lacks good tags for many
of these boreo-temperate upland features, and whilst that is true there
will be always be someone abusing existing tags. I think most mappers
remember the initial thrill of seeing changes come through on the main map
style: for some people it's probably still a primary motivator.

I therefore think Brian's suggestions of working collectively to map these
areas better together with a more in-depth consideration of the relevant
tagging is the way to go: and landuse=unimproved_grassland at the very
least has the advantage of being correct. I have compared several location
in Wales with my own photographs and the former CCW Phase 1 Habitat shape
file, and acidic or neutral unimproved grassland is the classification of
the majority of these locations. (I'm not sure of the status of this latter
data: my copy is for private use only, but if it was released as Open Data
it would be very useful. One word of caution the data was compiled over a
long period and in some places will be out-of-date.)

I'm always reluctant to delete stuff from OSM, unless it can be replaced by
something better. Grassland tagging is a mess in OSM: let's use this as an
opportunity to improve it for OSM in the UK.

One last thing: I'm not very keen on calling people out on a public mailing
list. The nature of OSM is that one knows nothing of many mappers (Frederik
talked about this at SotM-14): there is always a risk of doing more than
hurting their feelings.

Regards,

Jerry



On 8 February 2017 at 21:46, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:

> I came across glucosamine during the farmyards quarterly projectwhere
> she/he'd tagged place=farm to every group of isolated buildings all over
> Herefordshire. I think he/she means well just misinterprets tagging
> conventions and then rolls on regardless.
>
> Might we tackle this task under the general heading either of "landuse
> fixes" or "uplands" as our next quarterly project? That gives us some time
> to discuss approaches, conventions , progress tools etc so that we can hit
> the ground running so to speak on day 1
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> On 8 February 2017 at 21:35, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Marco Boeringa wrote:
>> > There may be more... All of these "users" are prolific, leave almost
>> > no changeset comments, and seem to be editing all day. It seems
>> > to me these are editors working professionally for some OSM
>> > related company.
>>
>> Thanks for the detective work and for persisting with this.
>>
>> I think it's very unlikely, however, that these users are editing OSM for
>> a
>> company. Probably the majority of edits in the UK are done by what you
>> might
>> call "lone mappers". Generally this works well and people plough their own
>> furrows successfully, happily modifying their practice if particular
>> issues
>> are pointed out to them. But occasionally we have people who (perhaps
>> because of limited social skills) find it difficult to follow established
>> practice and co-operate with other contributors. There have been several
>> examples in the past and I'm sure many regulars here will be aware of a
>> few
>> of them.
>>
>> That's what I think we have here. I have no knowledge as to whether
>> Glucosamine, Dyserth and Sam888 are the same person or not - it wouldn't
>> surprise me either way. But they/he very much fit the "uncommunicative
>> lone
>> mapper" model.
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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