[Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

[Brian Prangle]

I've removed the offending tags from areas I know well,having walked them
off and on for 30 years,i.e Snowdon massif, Glyders and Berwyns. I've left
the poylgons suitably commented.

Regards

Brian

On 9 February 2017 at 10:10, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Despite the problems of these edits (incorrect tagging, bad polygons) more
> than anything they reflect that OSM as a project lacks good tags for many
> of these boreo-temperate upland features, and whilst that is true there
> will be always be someone abusing existing tags. I think most mappers
> remember the initial thrill of seeing changes come through on the main map
> style: for some people it's probably still a primary motivator.
>
> I therefore think Brian's suggestions of working collectively to map these
> areas better together with a more in-depth consideration of the relevant
> tagging is the way to go: and landuse=unimproved_grassland at the very
> least has the advantage of being correct. I have compared several location
> in Wales with my own photographs and the former CCW Phase 1 Habitat shape
> file, and acidic or neutral unimproved grassland is the classification of
> the majority of these locations. (I'm not sure of the status of this latter
> data: my copy is for private use only, but if it was released as Open Data
> it would be very useful. One word of caution the data was compiled over a
> long period and in some places will be out-of-date.)
>
> I'm always reluctant to delete stuff from OSM, unless it can be replaced
> by something better. Grassland tagging is a mess in OSM: let's use this as
> an opportunity to improve it for OSM in the UK.
>
> One last thing: I'm not very keen on calling people out on a public
> mailing list. The nature of OSM is that one knows nothing of many mappers
> (Frederik talked about this at SotM-14): there is always a risk of doing
> more than hurting their feelings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> On 8 February 2017 at 21:46, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I came across glucosamine during the farmyards quarterly projectwhere
>> she/he'd tagged place=farm to every group of isolated buildings all over
>> Herefordshire. I think he/she means well just misinterprets tagging
>> conventions and then rolls on regardless.
>>
>> Might we tackle this task under the general heading either of "landuse
>> fixes" or "uplands" as our next quarterly project? That gives us some time
>> to discuss approaches, conventions , progress tools etc so that we can hit
>> the ground running so to speak on day 1
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 8 February 2017 at 21:35, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Marco Boeringa wrote:
>>> > There may be more... All of these "users" are prolific, leave almost
>>> > no changeset comments, and seem to be editing all day. It seems
>>> > to me these are editors working professionally for some OSM
>>> > related company.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the detective work and for persisting with this.
>>>
>>> I think it's very unlikely, however, that these users are editing OSM
>>> for a
>>> company. Probably the majority of edits in the UK are done by what you
>>> might
>>> call "lone mappers". Generally this works well and people plough their
>>> own
>>> furrows successfully, happily modifying their practice if particular
>>> issues
>>> are pointed out to them. But occasionally we have people who (perhaps
>>> because of limited social skills) find it difficult to follow established
>>> practice and co-operate with other contributors. There have been several
>>> examples in the past and I'm sure many regulars here will be aware of a
>>> few
>>> of them.
>>>
>>> That's what I think we have here. I have no knowledge as to whether
>>> Glucosamine, Dyserth and Sam888 are the same person or not - it wouldn't
>>> surprise me either way. But they/he very much fit the "uncommunicative
>>> lone
>>> mapper" model.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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