[Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

I've just added a relation for the boundary of the new West Midlands
Cominbined Authority <https://westmidlandscombinedauthority.org.uk/> (which
is the same as the old ceremonial West Midlands County, which I've left
intact as it's still used I believe where postal addresses still insist on
a county and I can't think that the postal address for one minute is going
to change to West Midlands Combined Authority). My question is how do I
cope with non-constituent authorties?

Non-constituent members can sign up to more than one combined authority and
have less voting rights than constituent members. The non-constituent
authorities for the West Midlands Combined Authority are:

   - Cannock Chase District Council <https://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/>
   - Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council
   <https://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/>
   - Redditch Borough Council <http://www.redditchbc.gov.uk/>
   - Tamworth Borough Council
   <http://www.tamworth.gov.uk/tamworth-join-planned-west-midlands-combined-authority>
   - Telford and Wrekin Council
   <http://www.telford.gov.uk/news/article/3085/councils_decision_on_west_midlands_combined_authority>

Regards

Brian

On 10 February 2017 at 08:33, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Adam,
>
> The trouble with the UK is that places don't have clear boundaries...
>
> 1) on the administrative side there are Civil Parishes, but large parts of
> the country are "unparished" and some parishes contain multiple
> "settlements"
>
> 2) Royal Mail have completely different ideas, which are for their own
> convenience and frequently conflict with the admin boundaries
>
> 3) (my suspicion) people identify with their location using other criteria
> - spontaneous answers to "what place do you live in" will show a great
> variation "around the edges" of a place
>
> Not sure if the National Gazetteer (which focuses on addresses) tries to
> define boundaries to named places...
>
>
> All in all, if we have boundaries for places, they are going to have to
> allow for fuzzy edges and overlaps.
>
> I suppose it all starts with "what do you mean by place"?
>
> //colin
>
> On 2017-02-10 00:48, Adam Snape wrote:
>
> Thanks Phil,
>
> Our local place mapping must be quite primitive, because few place
> boundaries are mapped. Do you mean that both the boundary and node should
> carry the place=tag? Where there isn't a clear boundary to the place,
> should the mapper estimate it? Glad to hear I've been putting the nodes in
> the right place anyway :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> --------------------
>
> Normally places are mapped with both a boundary and node.
>
> A node is certainly needed for navigation and should be somewhere
> sensible, normally the centre is where someone who puts the placename into
> a satnav would expect to end up, rather than a housing estate in the
> geographical centre.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
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