[Talk-GB] Legally permitted vs inadvisable

[Philip Barnes]

On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 11:41 +0000, SK53 wrote:
> Inadvisable is probably too dependent on the individual and their
> particular situation.
Absolutely, doing this could make many PROW inaccessible.

Phil (trigpoint)


> As ever it is better to try adding something more objective to the
> data which allows these routing situations to be better handled. The
> current tags which allow this are sidewalk & verge. I think a
> sensible solution for your generic case would be to disallow
> pedestrian routing along A-roads which have sidewalk=none (perhaps
> when maxspeed > 30 mph). Verges will not be practicable for many
> pedestrians (Mums with pushchairs, toddlers, older people etc) so I
> think can be ignored.
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> This would still allow routing where no-one has surveyed or tagged
> sidewalk provision, and is therefore less likely to break places
> where there are pavements or paths. It also allows those cases where
> walking along the road is inadvisable to be mapped on a case-by-case
> basis.
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> Other refinements might include considering whether a road is urban
> or rural (Richard Fairhurst does this on cycle.travel): OS Open Data
> provides a decent data set of this & the one I generate from OSM is
> very similar.
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> On a broader community level: mapping presence of absence of
> pavements or other paths alongside main roads in the countryside (and
> when absent features of the verge) is probably something we should
> aim to do alongside completing speed limits for trunk roads. Much can
> be done from Mapillary images.
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> Jerry
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> On 8 March 2017 at 11:27, Stuart Reynolds <stuart at travelinesoutheast.
> org.uk> wrote:
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> > What’s the thinking about tagging foot=no along busy dual
> > carriageways? Specifically I would like to remove a walk from a
> > stretch of the A2 near Barham in Kent where there are bus stops,
> > but no footways along the verge (and indeed very little in the way
> > of
> >  verge at some points). It is technically legal to walk along the
> > A2 from the junction to the south, but it is most certainly not
> > advisable and you would be taking your life into your hands if you
> > did so.
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> > BTW, access to the northbound bus stop is via a footpath through
> > the woods. Technically the southbound one is accessed via a
> > footpath across a break in the crash barriers - but we don’t have
> > that on OSM, and I’m not about to add it in.
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> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26237116#map=18/51.21188/1.16626
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> > Regards,
> > Stuart Reynolds
> > for traveline south east & anglia
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