[Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

[Silent Spike]

Good catch there Adam 🤔 Does this suggest they themselves are violating OS
licenses? Their database is referenced on wikipedia a bit, could be quite
the licensing rabbit hole.

Regarding your point Steven, I did notice this in the section linked by
Adam:

Decimal heights from LIDAR can be identified by the absence of an entry in
> the Survey field.


Which links to the following description of the survey field
<http://www.hills-database.co.uk/database_notes.html#survey> where your
questions appear to be answered.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Horner <steven at stevenhorner.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is that true though for the hills with details in the survey column, they
> have been measured with the instruments listed, eg. Abney level, Leica
> Disto D510, etc. If they don't have anything recorded in the survey column
> you would have to presume they are derived from OS mapping as there is no
> evidence to the contrary. Although does the survey equipment only record
> height or also position?
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:20 AM Adam Snape <adam.c.snape at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sadly, despite the licence I think that much of the positional and
>> (especially) the height information is unsuitable for OSM as some of it is
>> derived from OS mapping (or otherwise from published lists themselves
>> derived from OS Mapping)
>> http://www.hills-database.co.uk/database_notes.html#mapinfo_gb
>> and thus the OS could legitimately claim a violation of their database
>> right.
>>
>> If they were able to licence the raw GPS/height submitted by walkers and
>> others involved in the project then that could be useful.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 23:33, Silent Spike <silentspike100 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently came across the DoBIH
>>> <http://www.hills-database.co.uk/downloads.html> which you can see is
>>> licensed under CC BY 3.0.
>>>
>>> This could be a valuable source of accurate height and position
>>> information for "natural = peak" nodes in the UK + Ireland (maybe even an
>>> import candidate).
>>>
>>> Would anyone be interested in requesting permission following the wiki
>>> guidelines
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Getting_permission>? I'd do
>>> it myself, but it would probably be more professional coming from someone
>>> else.
>>>
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