[Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

Jez Nicholson jez.nicholson at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 09:41:00 UTC 2019


This can be where having the OSMUK organisation comes in useful. It gives a
focal point to discuss organisation to organisation. We will continue to
open a channel of communication.

Personally, I'm excited that Amazon are both users of, and contributing
back to OSM. As long as they behave as a good citizen.

- Jez

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:29 Gareth L, <o.i at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Amazon are indeed adding service roads at quite a pace, although with gps
> from their drivers and aerial imagery to support.
> As noted here
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2019-July/023252.html they
> are responding and soliciting to community feedback on their tagging, which
> I consider quite responsible.
>
> Driveways are a refinement of highway=service, so tagging it as highway
> service strikes me as a decent start to incrementing the detail of the map.
> So far I’ve only seen them add missing ways rather than alter existing
> ones, or revert some tagging they did on the ways they created following
> community feedback.
>
> I agree with you, Andy, that their user profile boilerplate messages could
> be more helpful. An email address isn’t the most transparent way of seeing
> what concerns are being raised.
>
> Gareth
>
> On 29 Jul 2019, at 09:43, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "stinks of armchair mapping" - that sounds rather derogatory. My
> understanding is that these are organised edits informed in
> significant part by Amazon's own GPS logs from their delivery staff.
> (Am I misunderstanding?) If so, referring to it as "armchair" is
> irrelevant; either way, referring to it as "stinks" is just not very
> nice. If they should be adding driveway tags then how about emailing
> their nominated contact address and teaching them the good ways?
>
> Best
> Dan
>
> Op ma 29 jul. 2019 om 09:37 schreef Andy Robinson <ajrlists at gmail.com>:
>
>
> I've just looked at a number of Amazon Logistics in my local area. A lot of
>
> service roads are getting added which on face value look perhaps to be
>
> driveways but that tag hasn't been added. Just stinks of armchair mapping.
>
> The users (three I spotted off the bat) all have the following   "I work
> for
>
> Amazon Logistics. At Amazon Logistics, we've been utilizing OSM in some
>
> cases related to our delivery programs. In connection with those delivery
>
> programs, we have collected information that we think is valuable to the
> OSM
>
> community such as names and info about new roads that are not currently in
>
> the map today, new data on turn restrictions, and road connectivity, to
> name
>
> a few. When we hear feedback, we've been editing to provide that
> information
>
> for the benefit of the entire OSM user community. If you have more
>
> questions, please contact osm-edit-escalations at amazon.com" in their
> username
>
> profiles but there is no link to what's really going on and what the basis
>
> of the edits are.
>
>
> Anyone else have concerns over benefits?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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