[Talk-GB] Types of Kissing Gates

[Dudley Ibbett]

The kissing gate enclosure (cross section) might be a "clear" way of distinguishing them.  There seem to be three main versions: "v", "square" and "circular".

"v" seems to be implicitly for pedestrians and it may not be possible to make it big enough to work for wheel chairs.  They can also be quite difficult to pass through even for pedestrians depending on their size and if they have a rucksac.   The enclosure version may therefore be relevant to access.

It would appear from council design statements that the "square" and "circular" versions are just made bigger for wheel chair access.

Dudley

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From: SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com>
Sent: 20 November 2019 12:57
To: Tony OSM <tonyosm9 at gmail.com>
Cc: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Types of Kissing Gates

In general I try and map both (example here<https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.81555/-0.85014> where the footpath goes over a stile, but notion is the same), and if it's a public footpath route the public footpath through the pedestrian gate. This is definitely micro-mapping, so If I'm in a hurry I'll do a single gate which is implicitly the pedestrian one.

It might be worth expanding discussion to types of gates too. Both gate & gate:type are in use (and both have values of kissing!). I've very rarely used gate=wicket_gate for the small <1m wide pedestrian gate, but standard single & double farm gates are worth noting.

Jerry

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 12:29, Tony OSM <tonyosm9 at gmail.com<mailto:tonyosm9 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Happy with a kissing_gate tag that could combine these variations.

Can we also discuss paths/tracks which have a vehicle gate and a pedestrian gate alongside each other. Is it one complex gate? or for routing do we have to place two gates and draw paths through each?

Personally I just need to know what is the agreed method.

Regards

TonyS999

On 20/11/2019 11:35, SK53 wrote:
Whilst we tag different types of stiles, I'm not aware that we differentiate different kinds of kissing gates.

Yesterday visiting Clumber Park to participate in a National Trust path mapping briefing we saw three distinct kinds, to which I've added a fourth:


  1.   A traditional wooden kissing gate with a triangular cross-section. Generally now replaced by 2.
  2.  A metal kissing gate with a circular cross-section
  3.   As for 2, but substantially larger, with the gate part able to be opened entirely with a RADAR key for wheelchair access (including, I think, powered ones).
  4.   A large wooden one with the central gate being of the size of a traditional farm gate, locking into a latch at either end of it's swing.  (Probably really need to find a picture)

Obviously we can use material and wheelchair tags to capture some of these differences, but it might be worth having a kissing_gate tag to separate them more clearly.

Any thoughts?

Jerry



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