[Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM
bainton.ete at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 11:22:05 UTC 2019
Thanks Jez, that's all very encouraging.
Local to me is Peterborough.
Yes will definitely aim to progress this to a national-level conversation -
I'll loop back here once it's clearer what they think their needs are. (or
better on Loomio? Another OSM channel, who'd ha' thunk it ;)
Ditto the NCN wiki.
On 10 Oct 2019 11:57, "Jez Nicholson" <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> Good to see you lobbying on behalf of OSM. If they get really interested
> and you want to hook the national level organisation then give us a shout
> at OSMUK.
> BTW, where is 'local' for you?
> Looking on the bright side. Arguments *for* using OSM:
> 1. They/volunteers/helpers can add/edit locations that other mapping
> agencies might not be interested in, or might take a while to include
> 2. Creating and managing your own GIS infrastructure costs time, effort,
> and money
> 3. Other people are starting to trust OSM as a source, e.g. National Trust
> 4. Cycle maps often use OSM data
> 5. The data is somewhere where people can get hold of it if the want to
> Overpass Turbo is useful for querying http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MZy and
> it has options to export or create a map.
> This is the type of activity that could end up as an OSMUK Quarterly
> Project and/or a specific tool could be built.
> That wiki page is mostly from 2009. It would be good to update it.
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:26 AM Dave F via Talk-GB <
> talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> I've had the occasional limited discussions on social media. Arguments
>> against using OSM fall into
>> 1. Claim of no cost to use OS data as it's via local authority licensing.
>> Unsure if it's all LAs
>> 2. They "wanted to use mapping that had 100% reliable data for the users
>> 3. Mild resentment at being informed they may not be using the best
>> Can you check if they have a sponsorship agreement with OS?
>> On 09/10/2019 17:31, Edward Bainton wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I'm meeting the local Sustrans office next week as they've asked me to
>> compile a 'map' of the NCN mileposts in my area (I think they really mean
>> an inventory with locator maps).
>> Obviously I'll be using OSM, and trying to get them to see the benefits of
>> doing the same. OSM seems to be largely unknown in the local office.
>> 1. Does anyone know *any history of engaging with Sustrans*, to inform my
>> There's mention on the wiki<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information>
>> them making milepost locations available for mapping - but that's a long
>> time ago now.
>> 2. Here's a sample page<https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3d686qnu77t0mz/Millennium%20milepost%20Compilation.doc.pdf?dl=0> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3d686qnu77t0mz/Millennium%20milepost%20Compilation.doc.pdf?dl=0>
>> of what they sent me as a precedent.
>> *Any suggestions for how to leverage OSM's capabilities to improve it?*
>> I ask as a non-techie. My own thoughts: put it online & wikify; 'live'
>> locator maps updating as OSM changes; filterable by NCN route.
>> Thanks as ever
>> Edward / eteb3
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