[Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sun Sep 1 10:30:47 UTC 2019


None of that data is actually open, it is just somebody trying to
leverage implied association with OpenStreetMap and what people
associate with that, to further their own project.

Simon

Am 31.08.2019 um 23:33 schrieb BD:
> For some time I did wonder why this information is not available on
> OSM (or at least not complete)
>
> Have you seen this project:
> https://opencanalmap.uk/about/
>
> One thing that puzzles me is fact that this open data is merged with
> google maps. Wouldn't be easier to have it on OSM?
>
> Cheers,
> dzidek23
>
> Dnia 29 sierpnia 2019 12:02 talk-gb-request at openstreetmap.org napisał(a):
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>      1. Wales Coast Path almost finished (Richard Fairhurst)
>      2. Re: Canoeing infrastructure/river features (Jez Nicholson)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:05:01 +0100
>     From: Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemeD.net>
>     To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)" <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>     Subject: [Talk-GB] Wales Coast Path almost finished
>     Message-ID: <9e1d2555-65a1-9e19-3501-22a25f0f3230 at systemeD.net>
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>     I was in holiday in North Wales last week and mapped the biggest
>     remaining gap, east from Aberdaron:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!52.8079!-4.6498
>
>     That leaves three smaller gaps around the central Cardigan Bay
>     coastline, between Barmouth and Borth:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!52.6483!-4.0907
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=14!52.4981!-4.0189
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!52.5799!-3.9411
>
>     plus one short one in South Wales near Gowerton:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!51.6472!-4.0787
>
>     Fixing these will mean not only that the WCP is complete in OSM, but
>     also, as far as I can tell, that we have full coverage of National
>     Trails in England & Wales. So if anyone's going on holiday to West
>     Wales, or the Gower, please do map the missing bits and we'll be
>     complete.
>
>     cheers
>     Richard
>
>
>
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:57:35 +0100
>     From: Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
>     To: Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features
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>     By 'collect some relevant info' I mean 'document your findings
>     from asking
>     questions on Talk lists and poking round the wiki'. Before
>     constructing any
>     grand new project pages, I would add a section to a relevant UK
>     page. This
>     _could_ spin off into a new page later, or it might provoke the
>     response
>     of, "but this is documented here on .... page", or people might
>     join in.
>     Either way, everyone wins.
>
>     A search on
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=canoe and
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=kayak throws up some
>     pages. The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dcanoe
>     caught my
>     eye as I didn't know that canoe routes were signed/plotted.
>
>     My best experience with the wiki comes from writing
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom
>     By writing up the situation in the UK and working-in-the-open on a
>     personal
>     project to locate wind farms, I have found other people who were also
>     interested, and it has led (partially) to the solar quarterly project.
>
>     The OSMWiki is organised in places, chaotic in other places, and
>     frustrating in many.....but it is *ours*. I appeal to all UK
>     Mappers to
>     make it a good place to be.
>
>     On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:48 AM Jez Nicholson
>     <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         Interesting. There must be some waterways fans around here
>         somewhere. I
>         can see some pages like
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Whitewater_Maps
>         which
>         focus on one aspect of canoeing, and some countries appear to
>         have marked
>         routes.
>
>         As a UK Mapper you could add to
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_waterways
>         and collect
>         some info relevant to UK canoeists.
>
>         - Jez
>
>         On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:00 AM Edward Bainton
>         <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
>         wrote:
>
>             Hello all
>
>             I've started to map some features useful (I hope) to
>             canoeists such as
>             myself.
>             Eg, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73814496
>             (Irthlingborough
>             Lock)
>             Eg, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73815104
>             (bottom right)
>
>             However, there seems to be quite a lack of objects on the
>             wiki that are
>             suitable. (Full disclosure: I'm an occasional, rather
>             inexpert mapper.)
>
>             Is this the place to discuss?
>
>             Edward
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