[Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

Tony OSM tonyosm9 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 1 08:15:34 UTC 2019


Hi,

Had a quick look at https://opencanalmap.uk/about/ particularly the 
Canal & River Trust license link at the bottom, it clearly states

3.1 This licence does not permit the use of: .........3.1.4Data for or 
in connection with or for the direct or indirect benefit of any 
Commercial Purpose; and

so I think that the data does not meet OSM license requirements 
particularly Commercial purposes.

However canoeing data does seem to be something that OSM should work with.

TonyS999

On 31/08/2019 22:33, BD wrote:
> For some time I did wonder why this information is not available on 
> OSM (or at least not complete)
>
> Have you seen this project:
> https://opencanalmap.uk/about/
>
> One thing that puzzles me is fact that this open data is merged with 
> google maps. Wouldn't be easier to have it on OSM?
>
> Cheers,
> dzidek23
>
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>      1. Wales Coast Path almost finished (Richard Fairhurst)
>      2. Re: Canoeing infrastructure/river features (Jez Nicholson)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:05:01 +0100
>     From: Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemeD.net>
>     To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)" <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>     Subject: [Talk-GB] Wales Coast Path almost finished
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>     I was in holiday in North Wales last week and mapped the biggest
>     remaining gap, east from Aberdaron:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!52.8079!-4.6498
>
>     That leaves three smaller gaps around the central Cardigan Bay
>     coastline, between Barmouth and Borth:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!52.6483!-4.0907
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=14!52.4981!-4.0189
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!52.5799!-3.9411
>
>     plus one short one in South Wales near Gowerton:
>
>     https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!51.6472!-4.0787
>
>     Fixing these will mean not only that the WCP is complete in OSM, but
>     also, as far as I can tell, that we have full coverage of National
>     Trails in England & Wales. So if anyone's going on holiday to West
>     Wales, or the Gower, please do map the missing bits and we'll be
>     complete.
>
>     cheers
>     Richard
>
>
>
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:57:35 +0100
>     From: Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
>     To: Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features
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>     By 'collect some relevant info' I mean 'document your findings
>     from asking
>     questions on Talk lists and poking round the wiki'. Before
>     constructing any
>     grand new project pages, I would add a section to a relevant UK
>     page. This
>     _could_ spin off into a new page later, or it might provoke the
>     response
>     of, "but this is documented here on .... page", or people might
>     join in.
>     Either way, everyone wins.
>
>     A search on
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=canoe and
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=kayak throws up some
>     pages. The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dcanoe
>     caught my
>     eye as I didn't know that canoe routes were signed/plotted.
>
>     My best experience with the wiki comes from writing
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom
>     By writing up the situation in the UK and working-in-the-open on a
>     personal
>     project to locate wind farms, I have found other people who were also
>     interested, and it has led (partially) to the solar quarterly project.
>
>     The OSMWiki is organised in places, chaotic in other places, and
>     frustrating in many.....but it is *ours*. I appeal to all UK
>     Mappers to
>     make it a good place to be.
>
>     On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:48 AM Jez Nicholson
>     <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         Interesting. There must be some waterways fans around here
>         somewhere. I
>         can see some pages like
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Whitewater_Maps
>         which
>         focus on one aspect of canoeing, and some countries appear to
>         have marked
>         routes.
>
>         As a UK Mapper you could add to
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_waterways
>         and collect
>         some info relevant to UK canoeists.
>
>         - Jez
>
>         On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:00 AM Edward Bainton
>         <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
>         wrote:
>
>             Hello all
>
>             I've started to map some features useful (I hope) to
>             canoeists such as
>             myself.
>             Eg, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73814496
>             (Irthlingborough
>             Lock)
>             Eg, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73815104
>             (bottom right)
>
>             However, there seems to be quite a lack of objects on the
>             wiki that are
>             suitable. (Full disclosure: I'm an occasional, rather
>             inexpert mapper.)
>
>             Is this the place to discuss?
>
>             Edward
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