[Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

[Jez Nicholson]

Whilst we are on the subject of shops (I hope this isn't dragging the
discussion too far off topic) people may be interested how editors like iD
and Vespucci get lists of UK shop names to suggest in drop-downs. The Name
Suggestion Index contains json encoded descriptions of retail brands and
can be browsed using https://osmlab.github.io/name-suggestion-index/  this
page lets you enter 'gb' as a county code to show only UK shops.

I don't know (yet) how iD generates its list of shop types. This may be
hard-coded and/or pre-generated from the NSI.

The excellent
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Retail_chains_in_the_United_Kingdom OSM
Wiki page is a good driver for getting content into the NSI as we include
evidence of the name with an image.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:59 PM Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up.
>
> I specifically use it when I know that a shop exists, and am due to survey
> it to say what it is. So I guess it doesn't hurt if those aren't
> rendered......but please, people in general, don't just delete them.
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
> robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since version 4.22 of the Carto map style (which was deployed a few
>> days ago), the generic shop=yes tag is no longer rendered on the
>> default OSM-Carto map at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ . For details
>> of the decision see
>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3697 .
>>
>> In Great Britain,
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/shop#values shows we
>> currently have 7,772 objects tagged with shop=yes, which represents
>> 4.18% of our total shop=* objects. These objects will no longer appear
>> on the default map (unless they have other renderable tags). To have
>> the objects display again, we need to give them more specific shop=*
>> tags. Often, an appropriate shop value can be deduced from the shop
>> name, its website, or other existing tagging on OSM, without needing a
>> ground survey.
>>
>> Any mappers with a few minutes to spare might like to have a look at
>> their local area, and see if there are any shop=yes objects they could
>> re-tag with a more specific value. Some resources to help:
>>
>> * Overpass Turbo query to find shop=yes objects:
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/M0w (Pan/zoom to the area of interest, then
>> click on run. Try a smaller area if the query times out.)
>>
>> * OSM WIki Key:Shop page, with values for common shop types:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop
>>
>> * Taginfo GB shop values:
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/shop#values (Use the search
>> box at the top right of the *table* to get suggestions for the common
>> tag for a particular shop type.)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Robert.
>>
>> --
>> Robert Whittaker
>> https://osm.mathmos.net/
>>
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