[Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Have you checked whatever
there is an open issue proposing to
support imagery offset database in iD?

19 Aug 2020, 11:11 by scolebourne at joda.org:

> So, I followed the links below and added an offset. But this simply
> isn't a viable solution to the problem because it only works for JOSM
> and not iD.
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> I managed to convince one mapper to type in the offset manually in iD
> every time, but that is a horrible thing to ask new mappers to do,
> very offputting. And now I can see Amazon mappers using an iD variant
> that doesn't have the offset and moving all the roads as a result:
>  https://osmcha.org/changesets/89549551?aoi=758c7f2b-faca-44e5-acd2-0cb8c33034bd
>  https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89549551
> This is going to keep happening so long as OSM has multiple image
> sources and multiple editors. Frankly I'm amazed that this isn't a
> solved problem.
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> Having done some mapping across the country recently, it seems like
> Bing is offset to the previous best imagery across the country, but by
> varying amounts. Is there really no solution that can be applied to
> the source Bing layer? Or should we all just accept Bing as golden?
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> Having added thousands of buildings and fixed roads to align to the
> previous best imagery, I don't have a good solution to the problem,
> and it is demotivating to think that others are going to come along
> and move individual roads/buildings to align without considering the
> bigger picture.
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> The only solution I can think of is to move all nodes in the area I've
> worked on to match the new Bing (ie a mass edit). Any other
> suggestions?
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> Stephen
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> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 at 23:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Imagery_Offset_Database/Quick_Start
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Imagery_Offset_Database
>> (I think that nowadays it is built in - is plugin installation still necessary?)
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>> No idea about iD support - https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/search?q=imagery+offset
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>> Jul 13, 2020, 00:21 by scolebourne at joda.org:
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>> Wow, the imagery is really good. But in my area the imagery is about
>> 3-4m east west and 3-4m north south out of alignment with Esri World
>> Imagery (Clarity) Beta, which is what I've been using up until now
>> (for thousands of buildings).
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.39886/-0.24940
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>> Is there any way to unify the alignments?
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>> Stephen
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>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 06:41, Gareth L <o.i at live.co.uk> wrote:
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>> I’ve noticed patches of vastly improved bing imagery since December, but it is really patchy.
>> Gareth
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>> > On 6 Jul 2020, at 23:21, Cj Malone <me-osm-talk-gb at keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > I was splitting houses in Portsmouth/Southsea this morning. The imagery
>> > is great, I don't know if it was part of this update, or if it's been
>> > like this for a while.
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