[Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

Cj Malone CjMalone at mail.com
Sat Jan 18 18:40:50 UTC 2020


Hey Neil,

I don't know which nodes you are talking about, but of the ones I'm
looking at (where "name" != name from new NaPTAN data using
"naptan:AtcoCode"). The vast majority haven't been updated in 10 years,
since the NaPTAN import, or one edit where "naptan:verified" was
changed to yes.

I am not doing automatic, or blind edits. It would have been helpful if
when you changed names from NaPTAN import to surveyed you used
"not:name", but that doesn't matter. When I make the edits I can look
at the history of the node, and if a mapper has changed the name semi
recently I will not change it but rather add a "fixme" describing the
issue.

Thanks,
Cj

On Sat, 2020-01-18 at 15:01 +0000, Neil Matthews wrote:
> No, please don't update mismatched bus stop names "blindly".
>
> I've surveyed a lot locally and have updated them to the newest
> values
> from paper timetables -- which have newer names than on metal
> signage.
> They also match the names that the local council have used when
> updating
> OSM. A lot of names were surveyed that didn't need to be changed -- I
> don't know how you would ensure that you didn't change them to some
> incorrect official value. Obviously, you shouldn't be changing names
> that weren't in the preious Naptan data -- you should at least assume
> that they are now newer and likely to come from surveyed data.
>
> The best approach is either to add official_name (naptan_name?) and
> leave "name" alone, or provide a mechanism where local mappers can
> survey mismatches between your dataset and what is currently in OSM.
> At
> the very, very least you should move "name" to "old_name".
>
> Best regards,
> Neil
>
> P.S. At least locally there are locations where several bus stops
> have
> been amalgamated into a single one. Also some are now
> disused:bus_stop
> if no services are currently stopping there.
>
>
>
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