[Talk-GB] Bus Routes on OSM

Ed Loach edloach at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 16:04:34 UTC 2020

I use the opendata to compare with OSM to identify any changes to routes that include any bus stops within the Tendring, Colchester and Maldon districts of Essex, then manually update. I usually do this weekly. The app I use to compare the data is in github, but I've got a feeling "Add Area" is buggy, and is definitely untested since I made a recent change to folder structures so it only downloaded the TDNS zips if they were newer than the local copy. I'll see if I can get to that tonight (as in test adding Basildon as an area), though might not get to it as I'm also ploughing through Tendring district pub social media pages for Tendring CAMRA to see what has reopened, or has a planned date to reopen, or has said they don't have a date, or haven't posted since March, and sorting my town and pun I'm only up to Frinton...

I do document the routemaster relations and when they were last checked on an OSM wiki page.

From: Gareth Boyes <gxboyes at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bus Routes on OSM

All bus routes in Great Britain and Isle of Man are available from https://www.travelinedata.org.uk/traveline-open-data/traveline-national-dataset/ under the Open Government Licence which I believe is compatible with OSM https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence.

You will need to apply for access from Traveline.  I applied using "OpenStreetMap contributor” as the reason for use and was granted access on the next working day. Access is granted to an ftp server that can be accessed using an FTP client e.g. Cyberduck.

BTW The traveline request form asks you to provide a password. Make sure you provide a unique password that you are happy to be sent in non-encrypted FTP request.


Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 14:43:55 +0100
From: David Woolley <forums at david-woolley.me.uk<mailto:forums at david-woolley.me.uk>>
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On 06/07/2020 14:02, Matthew Scanlon wrote:
How are Bus Routes added into OSM? I have noticed that bus routes in
Basildon (my local area) are a few years out of date with some service
such as the 5 and 8Ahaving been  withdrawn and the route 2 being
renumbered 28

My understanding is that TfL doesn't licence the information on a basis
that would allow it to be directly used, so OSM rely on members of the
public using the buses, or tracing the routes between bus stops.

How up to date the information is depends on how enthusiastic people are
in an area, and there tends to be a preference for mapping things for
the first time over maintaining existing mapping.

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