[Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument

Nick nick at foresters.org
Thu Jul 23 14:12:59 UTC 2020

Out of interest, I note that in England the 'List Entry Number' appears 
to be simply numeric, which does not appear to give an indication of the 
type of designation. Perhaps I have not picked that up correctly.

N.B. in Scotland, designations have a code + numeric listing e.g. HMPA2 
(which is a Historic Marine Protected Area). This makes it easier to 
identify by the listing as to the type of heritage designation (suggest 
that code references/descriptors could be included on a wiki for ref:hs=*)

On 23/07/2020 11:39, Tony OSM wrote:
> Hi
> When I started mapping these objects I looked at what other people had 
> done and followed suit. I looked at 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom and 
> saw a the statement
>         /National Heritage List for England (Historic England)/
> //
> /The Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission for England (commonly 
> known as //Historic England <https://historicengland.org.uk/>//) has 
> given permission for the //National Heritage List for England 
> <https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/data-downloads/>//(NHLE) 
> to be used in OSM under the terms of the //Open Government Licence v3 
> <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/>//. 
> //[10] 
> <https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/re_use_request_for_national_heri>//No 
> specific attribution was requested, so the default: "Contains public 
> sector information licensed under the Open Government Licence v3.0." 
> applies. The NHLE includes the following heritage listings: /
> //
>   * /Listed buildings (see //Key:listed_status
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:listed_status>//)/
>   * /Scheduled monuments/
>   * /Protected wreck sites/
>   * /Registered parks and gardens/
>   * /Registered battlefields/
>   * /World Heritage Sites/
>   * /Buildings with Building Preservation Notices (BPNs)/
> Revisiting today I think England is OK to use the data, but what about 
> Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and Isle Of Man ..........
> On 23/07/2020 10:47, Robert Skedgell wrote:
>> On 15/07/2020 10:18, Tony OSM wrote:
>>> Whilst mapping some of my local historic places I have found Scheduled
>>> Monuments. They are described in the Historic England list as Heritage
>>> Category: Scheduled Monument and has a List Entry Number.
>>> Building are listed as Heritage Category: Listed Building , Grade: (I,
>>> II*, II) and a list entry number.
>> I have a related question about using data from the Historic England
>> list. How can we comply with the attribution requirement in para. 2 of
>> OS Open Data Licence Agreement used by HE (below)? Some of this may be
>> covered by OSM's general license and acknowledgements, but would an
>> additional tag on the object be required?
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