[Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

[Dave F]

I think highway should be reverted to cycleway. There's a 
misunderstanding that highway=cycleway implies priority to bicycle 
riders, when it actually relates just to the number of transport modes 
which can use it. Bridleway equates to three modes: walkers, bikes & horses.

DaveF

On 03/09/2020 11:02, Robert Skedgell wrote:
> Rather than reverting, I restored access and left the top-level
> highway=* tag alone.
>
> I only noticed these changes when plotting a route in Komoot and
> noticing that I needed to create/drag a lot of extra waypoints in order
> to get the expected behaviour. Hopefully Komoot will behave responsibly
> and warn me that I'll need to dismount in a few places. Repairing
> routing as quickly as possible was my priority, although it could take
> weeks for some routers to restore functionality.
>
> In this case, I think that if there is any tagging for the renderer, the
> target renderer was OpenCycleMap rather than OSM Carto.
>
> On 03/09/2020 10:40, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
>> These changes should be reverted in my view.
>>
>> But I would note that the default map on osm.org does a poor job of communicating the difference between shared paths (like those in QEOP and elsewhere) and dedicated cycle lanes.  Both look like blue dashed lines.   They look indistinguishable. So an honest pedestrian mapper might easily jump to the wrong conclusion and make changes of the sort you've described below.
>>
>> Perhaps the right way forward is to suggest changes to how osm.org displays shared ways - red dash for dedicated pedestrian, blue dash for dedicated cycleway and alternating for shared?   Maybe something to indicate priority?   Without changes like this, I can see this sort of thing happening again.
>>
>> ---
>> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
>> spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
> [...]
>
>>> It also appears to be tagging for the renderer, as changing
>>> cycleway->footway changes the path in OpenCycleMap from a blue dashed
>>> line to a red dashed line.
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