[Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

[Nick]

The update on the FOIA request 
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr 
is worth a read!! Makes you wonder at the value of releasing open data 
that has limited value to the public?

On 01/08/2020 20:24, Nick wrote:
>
> As a follow up, Robert Whittaker also submitted an FOI asking for "... 
> a list of all UPRNs that are classified as 'historic', and a separate 
> list of all those classified as a 'parent' ....". the logicto me was 
> that this would help users of Open Data to then filter these out. The 
> response that this was "exempt from disclosure under section 21 of the 
> FOIA" - if you are interested follow the link to 
> https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr
>
> I was also interested regarding the details of the batch allocation to 
> each custodian. So apart from the commercial value, this is unlikely 
> to be published as apparently this might be misleading due to the 
> randomness of the data and likely to be out of date quickly.
>
> So much for the potential for collaboration with the various authorities.
>
> On 06/07/2020 15:10, Nick wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jez
>>
>> To clarify, what I did was to find a 'suspicious' UPRN (two pins on 
>> one building with different address details). I then looked up the 
>> address on an online system (e.g. OneScotlandGazetteer or the local 
>> authority online Planning system) to check the details (UPRN and 
>> address). That allowed me to have details, which in this instance I 
>> then checked property sites (e.g. ESPC) to verify the 'likely' error.
>>
>> If you want more details of the example, let me know and I can put a 
>> bit more detail together.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On 06/07/2020 12:34, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>> Sorry, i mean 'findmyaddress'.
>>>
>>> Also, from this Twitter thread 
>>> https://twitter.com/jnicho02/status/1279821108783579139?s=20 I note 
>>> that some streets have a UPRN. Existing services filter them out.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, 12:29 Jez Nicholson, <jez.nicholson at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jez.nicholson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Do you mean that you looked up the UPRN on findmystreet and it's
>>>     supposedly in a different location to the latlon in the file?
>>>
>>>     On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, 12:26 Nick, <nick at foresters.org
>>>     <mailto:nick at foresters.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         So I have just started with my crude system and already
>>>         found one UPRN
>>>         that looks as if it is in the wrong location (wrong postcode
>>>         6BT > 6ST ~
>>>         and wrong county). If I am correct, then this demonstrates
>>>         the value of
>>>         opening up data to more 'eyes'. Not sure how we could
>>>         collate all lists
>>>         of anomalies to demonstrate this to government.
>>>
>>>         On 06/07/2020 12:09, Nick wrote:
>>>         > I went for the crude approach as my computer is not that
>>>         powerful, so
>>>         > I split the CSV into chunks and imported batches into QGIS
>>>         with
>>>         > county/postcode boundaries as my interest is trying to
>>>         understand how
>>>         > the UPRNs have been batched. Not elegant but means that I
>>>         now can
>>>         > focus on our area and identify those UPRNs that are most
>>>         useful to me
>>>         > for plotting missing rural properties. I can then write a
>>>         script to
>>>         > only give me those UPRNs of interest. As I say, crude but
>>>         useful to me
>>>         > as I can now start to match addresses to UPRN when I add
>>>         properties.
>>>         >
>>>         > On 05/07/2020 20:56, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>>>         >> On 05.07.2020 18:45, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>>>         >>> On 05.07.2020 17:51, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>>         >>>> Naive question - can that be added as a layer in JOSM?
>>>         If so, how?
>>>         >>> I'll have to check whether I can manage that anyway with
>>>         the new server
>>>         >>> now. Will come back to this.
>>>         >> Meh. 3 hours in, every possible lead I had didn't bring
>>>         me closer to
>>>         >> setting up the UPRN data in the same way.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Having 6 GiB of GeoPackage or 2 GiB of MySQL data doesn't
>>>         make working
>>>         >> with the data any easier.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> I will look out for help from the GeoServer people during
>>>         the week,
>>>         >> watch this space :)
>>>         >>
>>>         >> K
>>>         >>
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