[Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Improving ref=* documentation

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Aug 5, 2021, 14:58 by ajt1047 at gmail.com:

> On 05/08/2021 13:29, Mateusz Konieczny      via Talk-GB wrote:
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>> Would it be correct to describe it as covering the        same as unsigned_ref
>> "Indicates a route number that has assigned ref        that is not prominently signposted with
>> a reassurance marker."
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>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned_ref <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned_ref#Usage>
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> The wiki page for unsigned_ref seems to define it as a ref that      _is_ signed, just not very well, which is somewhat confusing.
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I clarified a bit by adding

"It may be not signposted anywhere at all, what is a typical situation.
But in some rare cases there are tiny, unusable by drivers, signs."

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> The original version of the page 
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=prev&oldid=1095857
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> suggests that it was used a lot in the US, which makes sense      because a single road there can be part of both SR123 and SR345.       One of these may be signed, one not.
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> (...)
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> You added "... or with barely visible signs" at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=next&oldid=2114371>  , and that significantly changes that pages meaning to no longer      reflect how the tag was previously used.
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It was intended as documenting how it is used in for example Poland (where somebody
started placing tiny signs in some parts of a country).

Maybe tagging should be changed by community instead or it should be noted that
it is a local oddity?

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> That said, some way of expressing "there are signs here, but they      are not very good" would be useful - but that's surely not      "unsigned_ref"
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it is not so bad - as this signs are utterly unusable by drivers (too tiny)
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