[Talk-GB] Fwd: [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder

[Edward Bainton]

Hi Robert

Just to say that I've found a couple of post boxes with almost but not
quite the same ref as in the Royal Mail list (at least, going by your Post
Hoc site)

I don't know if you do fuzzy matches but in case of any help:

   - These two have both had a 'D' added to the end of the ref:
      - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6028345590
      - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7435689367
   - One other I recently edited had a '1' added at the end (11>111 iirc).
   I can't remember which of my changesets it was, and I'm not good enough at
   Overpass to grub it up, but assume you could if you needed to.

Thanks for the great tool,

Edward


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 06:12
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder
To: Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com>
Cc: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>


Post Hoc is very useful then! Thanks for the link and to whoever produced
the site. I'll go and use that to find the boxes on the ground.

Should I be following iD's suggestion to add wikidata operator?

And is there any value in collecting the date that now appears next to the
ref number on the plate? (Seems to be a recent addition?)

eg, the last two lines of the plate on this box in Ely
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/29042567> read

Postbox number *CB7 15 *13/10/2020
CP1


On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:34, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:

> >  2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes currently
> unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only attribution is to
> OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is from their own
> sources?
>
> Yes, to identify unmapped boxes (though better tools already exist (link
> to follow) but no to adding ref numbers. Interestingly, the box positions
> and details are actually more accurate and richer in OSM (for those mapped
> by a ground survey) than Royal Mail have on their records. (It's possible,
> however, that they're deliberately offering a slightly degraded dataset
> with their map.)
>
> Ultimately, it's probably the same dataset as Robert Whittaker uses for
> his excellent Post Hoc tool and I'd be surprised if the copyright warning
> given on https://osm.mathmos.net/postboxes didn't apply to the new RM map.
>
> Aside from these concerns, it's great to see another major presence adopt
> OSM-derived data for their website mapping tool.
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 12:23, Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Royal Mail has recently added an OSM-aided search function for post boxes
>> and other services:
>> https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you - eg results here
>> <https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you#/results?postcode=SW1A%201AA&latitude=51.501009&longitude=-0.141588&searchRadius=40&count=40&filters=&officeType=postboxes>
>>
>>
>> 1. Does anyone know why the map loads so slowly? Is that an our-side
>> problem, or theirs?
>>
>> 2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes currently
>> unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only attribution is to
>> OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is from their own
>> sources?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Edward
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