[Talk-GB] Fwd: [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder

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A post fixed 'D' merely indicates that the box is collected during delivery
rounds. All the ones I've seen have collection times of 7 am weekdays & 9
am on Saturday. The 'D' is added when there is a change from a late
afternoon weekday collection. I think a 'P' suffix is used for metered
mail/parcel post boxes.

One thing I've been meaning to ask about are "priority postboxes" indicated
by a sticker & needed for sending PCR tests back for analysis.

Jerry

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, 10:44 Edward Bainton, <bainton.ete at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Robert
>
> Just to say that I've found a couple of post boxes with almost but not
> quite the same ref as in the Royal Mail list (at least, going by your Post
> Hoc site)
>
> I don't know if you do fuzzy matches but in case of any help:
>
>    - These two have both had a 'D' added to the end of the ref:
>       - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6028345590
>       - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7435689367
>    - One other I recently edited had a '1' added at the end (11>111
>    iirc). I can't remember which of my changesets it was, and I'm not good
>    enough at Overpass to grub it up, but assume you could if you needed to.
>
> Thanks for the great tool,
>
> Edward
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 06:12
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder
> To: Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>
>
> Post Hoc is very useful then! Thanks for the link and to whoever produced
> the site. I'll go and use that to find the boxes on the ground.
>
> Should I be following iD's suggestion to add wikidata operator?
>
> And is there any value in collecting the date that now appears next to the
> ref number on the plate? (Seems to be a recent addition?)
>
> eg, the last two lines of the plate on this box in Ely
> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/29042567> read
>
> Postbox number *CB7 15 *13/10/2020
> CP1
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:34, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >  2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes
>> currently unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only
>> attribution is to OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is
>> from their own sources?
>>
>> Yes, to identify unmapped boxes (though better tools already exist (link
>> to follow) but no to adding ref numbers. Interestingly, the box positions
>> and details are actually more accurate and richer in OSM (for those mapped
>> by a ground survey) than Royal Mail have on their records. (It's possible,
>> however, that they're deliberately offering a slightly degraded dataset
>> with their map.)
>>
>> Ultimately, it's probably the same dataset as Robert Whittaker uses for
>> his excellent Post Hoc tool and I'd be surprised if the copyright warning
>> given on https://osm.mathmos.net/postboxes didn't apply to the new RM
>> map.
>>
>> Aside from these concerns, it's great to see another major presence adopt
>> OSM-derived data for their website mapping tool.
>>
>> Regards,
>> *Paul*
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 12:23, Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Royal Mail has recently added an OSM-aided search function for post
>>> boxes and other services:
>>> https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you - eg results here
>>> <https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you#/results?postcode=SW1A%201AA&latitude=51.501009&longitude=-0.141588&searchRadius=40&count=40&filters=&officeType=postboxes>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Does anyone know why the map loads so slowly? Is that an our-side
>>> problem, or theirs?
>>>
>>> 2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes currently
>>> unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only attribution is to
>>> OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is from their own
>>> sources?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Edward
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