[Talk-GB] Fwd: [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder

[Paul Berry]

I have begun to tag these with "collection:covid19=priority" based on
similar Covid-related tags suggested by iD.

It's a start.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 13:33, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> A post fixed 'D' merely indicates that the box is collected during
> delivery rounds. All the ones I've seen have collection times of 7 am
> weekdays & 9 am on Saturday. The 'D' is added when there is a change from a
> late afternoon weekday collection. I think a 'P' suffix is used for metered
> mail/parcel post boxes.
>
> One thing I've been meaning to ask about are "priority postboxes"
> indicated by a sticker & needed for sending PCR tests back for analysis.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, 10:44 Edward Bainton, <bainton.ete at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert
>>
>> Just to say that I've found a couple of post boxes with almost but not
>> quite the same ref as in the Royal Mail list (at least, going by your Post
>> Hoc site)
>>
>> I don't know if you do fuzzy matches but in case of any help:
>>
>>    - These two have both had a 'D' added to the end of the ref:
>>       - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6028345590
>>       - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7435689367
>>    - One other I recently edited had a '1' added at the end (11>111
>>    iirc). I can't remember which of my changesets it was, and I'm not good
>>    enough at Overpass to grub it up, but assume you could if you needed to.
>>
>> Thanks for the great tool,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 06:12
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] [talk-gb] Royal Mail post-box finder
>> To: Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>>
>>
>> Post Hoc is very useful then! Thanks for the link and to whoever produced
>> the site. I'll go and use that to find the boxes on the ground.
>>
>> Should I be following iD's suggestion to add wikidata operator?
>>
>> And is there any value in collecting the date that now appears next to
>> the ref number on the plate? (Seems to be a recent addition?)
>>
>> eg, the last two lines of the plate on this box in Ely
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/29042567> read
>>
>> Postbox number *CB7 15 *13/10/2020
>> CP1
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 22:34, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >  2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes
>>> currently unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only
>>> attribution is to OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is
>>> from their own sources?
>>>
>>> Yes, to identify unmapped boxes (though better tools already exist (link
>>> to follow) but no to adding ref numbers. Interestingly, the box positions
>>> and details are actually more accurate and richer in OSM (for those mapped
>>> by a ground survey) than Royal Mail have on their records. (It's possible,
>>> however, that they're deliberately offering a slightly degraded dataset
>>> with their map.)
>>>
>>> Ultimately, it's probably the same dataset as Robert Whittaker uses for
>>> his excellent Post Hoc tool and I'd be surprised if the copyright warning
>>> given on https://osm.mathmos.net/postboxes didn't apply to the new RM
>>> map.
>>>
>>> Aside from these concerns, it's great to see another major presence
>>> adopt OSM-derived data for their website mapping tool.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> *Paul*
>>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 12:23, Edward Bainton <bainton.ete at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Royal Mail has recently added an OSM-aided search function for post
>>>> boxes and other services:
>>>> https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you - eg results here
>>>> <https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you#/results?postcode=SW1A%201AA&latitude=51.501009&longitude=-0.141588&searchRadius=40&count=40&filters=&officeType=postboxes>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Does anyone know why the map loads so slowly? Is that an our-side
>>>> problem, or theirs?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Does anyone know if we can use this data to identify boxes currently
>>>> unmapped in OSM, or to add their ref numbers? The only attribution is to
>>>> OSM contributors, but I'm guessing the overlaid data is from their own
>>>> sources?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Edward
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