[Talk-GB] Tagging a record store that also sells drinks
Ken Kilfedder
spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
Fri Aug 20 18:11:04 UTC 2021
It looks to me like the ISCED levels are correct as they are - you *could* add an isced:level=0 to the nursery, if it's known to be "designed primarily to introduce very young children to a school-type environment" which is not a given, I guess.
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, at 4:03 PM, Tom Crocker wrote:
> I'd been wondering how to handle naming in these cases. I added a nursery as a node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8627015155 that's part of a primary school represented by an area https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/399097950. Since it's part of the primary school I haven't named it but wondered if that was unhelpful? I also wondered if I should be using the ISCED level on the primary school instead of the separate node, but that seems like troll tagging?
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> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, 12:34 Ken Kilfedder, <spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk> wrote:
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>> Here's a hairdresser-cafe in my manor <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/969582185>. I've made the cafe a node within the salon (since that's what it feels like). The signage reads '__Gezelling Male Grooming and Coffee Locale", so I've split that too. (no sign of them on FHRS)__
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>> I seem to remember on Danny Baker's old Radio 1 programme a regular phone in on 'shops selling disparate items', the reigning champion being a hairdresser that sold suits of armour.
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>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, at 11:02 AM, Michael Collinson wrote:
>>> hairdresser-cafe. I like it!
>>>
>>> And taking things also more seriously, I am a fan of thinking of OSM tags as "primary" and "metadata" and trying where possible (not always easy) to have only one primary tag per node/way entity. I personally don't like having a function (shop) on a building (a man-made physical structure) - so doctrinal rather than ya-must-do-this but from experience works very well.
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>>> So, yep, I'd have a separate hairdresser node. And for the OP, I'd definitely consider a separate shop=kiosk.
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>>> Other real world examples:
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>>> In Sweden, supermarkets often run the local post office too under a franchising system. It makes things much easier (display, searching) to have a separate post-office node ... which can also physically placed over the counter location.
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>>> In Australia, particularly in rural/semi-rural areas, it is very common to have the pub expanded to have a convenience store/small supermarket, bottle shop, an ATM machine and perhaps a cafe/restaurant distinct from the pub itself.
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>>> Hotels, golf courses (!) with a restaurant catering to off-the-street customers. Book shops with cafes.
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>>> Harder ones: Pubs with integrated eating.
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>>> Mike
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>>> On 2021-08-20 09:43, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>>> Heh! I love it when the real world rebels against categorisation. I found a hairdresser-cafe, and a pub where one of the bar staff would give you a haircut in a side room.
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>>>> Is the drinks part in a distinct area of the shop? Does it warrant a separate node?
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>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, 16:32 Mat Attlee, <mattattlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I've come across a record store that also sells take away coffees, bottled wine and cans of beer. Is this best tagged as follows using shop=music and adding the drink tags? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/848227437
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