[Talk-GB] Tagging a record store that also sells drinks

Tom Crocker tomcrockermail at gmail.com
Fri Aug 20 15:03:12 UTC 2021


I'd been wondering how to handle naming in these cases. I added a nursery
as a node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8627015155 that's part of a
primary school represented by an area
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/399097950. Since it's part of the primary
school I haven't named it but wondered if that was unhelpful? I also
wondered if I should be using the ISCED level on the primary school instead
of the separate node, but that seems like troll tagging?

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, 12:34 Ken Kilfedder, <spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk>
wrote:

> Here's a hairdresser-cafe in my manor
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/969582185>.   I've made the cafe a
> node within the salon (since that's what it feels like).   The signage
> reads 'Gezelling Male Grooming and Coffee Locale", so I've split that
> too.   (no sign of them on FHRS)
>
> I seem to remember on Danny Baker's old Radio 1 programme a regular phone
> in on 'shops selling disparate items', the reigning champion being a
> hairdresser that sold suits of armour.
>
> ---
> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
> spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, at 11:02 AM, Michael Collinson wrote:
>
> hairdresser-cafe. I like it!
>
> And taking things also more seriously, I am a fan of thinking of OSM tags
> as "primary" and "metadata" and trying where possible (not always easy) to
> have only one primary tag per node/way entity. I personally don't like
> having a function (shop) on a building (a man-made physical structure) - so
> doctrinal rather than ya-must-do-this but from experience works very well.
>
> So, yep, I'd have a separate hairdresser node. And for the OP, I'd
> definitely consider a separate shop=kiosk.
>
> Other real world examples:
>
> In Sweden, supermarkets often run the local post office too under a
> franchising system. It makes things much easier (display, searching) to
> have a separate post-office node ... which can also physically placed over
> the counter location.
>
> In Australia, particularly in rural/semi-rural areas, it is very common to
> have the pub expanded to have a convenience store/small supermarket, bottle
> shop, an ATM machine and perhaps a cafe/restaurant distinct from the pub
> itself.
>
> Hotels, golf courses (!) with a restaurant catering to off-the-street
> customers. Book shops with cafes.
>
> Harder ones: Pubs with integrated eating.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 2021-08-20 09:43, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> Heh! I love it when the real world rebels against categorisation. I found
> a hairdresser-cafe, and a pub where one of the bar staff would give you a
> haircut in a side room.
>
> Is the drinks part in a distinct area of the shop? Does it warrant a
> separate node?
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, 16:32 Mat Attlee, <mattattlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've come across a record store that also sells take away coffees, bottled
> wine and cans of beer. Is this best tagged as follows using shop=music and
> adding the drink tags? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/848227437
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