[Talk-GB] 'informal' ramps

[SK53]

This discussion prompts me to remark that similar options may exist for
pedestrians (although may not be obvious on the ground).

My father cannot now really do steps unless they have a handrail. On the
way to the pharmacy yesterday our route took us over 2 very short flights
of steps (2-4 steps), but he was happy to circumvent the steps by walking
on the adjacent grass which is not steeply sloped. I think there would be
advantages being able to indicate this, because it is the difference
between a route being practical or not.

Jerry

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 11:52, Gareth L <o.i at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Yes, this!
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> Ramp=separate
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> The separate way could be tagged with incline/surface/ details  and
> highway=footway/path + informal=yes
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal
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> Gareth
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> *From: *Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>
> *Sent: *17 December 2021 10:26
> *To: *talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] 'informal' ramps
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> I wonder if Gareth has in mind drawing a parallel way for the informal
> ramp. I've occasionally used this in Sweden. Not the most elegant solution
> but does allow things like surface, mtb:scale (which I use for physical
> bicycle accessibility as distinct from legal), wheelchair (lack of)
> accessibility and anything else that you can come up with for assisting
> routing. Topologically "correct" and can track any deviations of the ramp
> from the steps. Your suggestions are still valid and I'll use them.  /Mike
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> On 2021-12-17 19:14, Tom Crocker wrote:
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> Hi Gareth. Sorry I should have made it clearer. This is when the osm way
> is a highway=steps but there's some usable ground to the side.
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> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, 08:02 Gareth L, <o.i at live.co.uk> wrote:
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> Would one of the incline tags serve well here? I’ve certainly seen ramps
> up to bridges which could be considered too steep for many wheelchairs but
> ok for a bike or pram.
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> Gareth
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> > On 16 Dec 2021, at 23:03, Tom Crocker <tomcrockermail at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Several times Street Complete has asked me about any usable ramp by
> steps in parks/woodland where there is nothing suitable for a wheelchair
> but the earth/grass slope would be very handy for a bike, and a pushchair
> at a stretch. That doesn't seem to fit any of the options (or anything in
> the wiki). Is there a case for a ramp=informal tag or similar and should I
> add ramp:bicycle=yes, or save that for the specific type?
> >
> > Thanks
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> > Tom
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