[Talk-GB] OSM UK address project: tags

[Neil Matthews]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your use of addr:street and addr:place -- but 
I note on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:place that there 
is an explicit statement that:

> No object should have addr:place=* and addr:street 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:street>=* at the same time.
Also (just checked, as memory like a sieve) JOSM complains if you add 
both addr:street and addr:place.

Cheers,
Neil

On 21/12/2021 16:03, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I hope many of you are now managing to relax and enjoy the Christmas 
> break. For those still working, I hope it drops away soon and you are 
> able to enjoy a break soon.
>
> As previously discussed, OSM UK is running a project to make it easier 
> to collect address data in the UK. As a quick recap, the aim is to 
> create a simple user interface where anyone (existing and new mappers) 
> can add address data. The interface will be populated with a series of 
> points where we believe there to be an address (filtered to avoid 
> duplication with any existing OSM data) and the user will be asked to 
> input the top part of the address.
>
> One of the challenges we have is making sure that the right part of 
> the address is assigned to the right addr:* tag in OpenStreetMap. We 
> have therefore been studying the address tags and how they are used in 
> the UK. Suffice to say it is not straightforward and without its 
> inconsistencies. I have therefore produced the following wiki page to 
> help other mappers understand the soup of available tags and which are 
> better / worse to use.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom
>
> You will see on the page that one of the concepts we struggle with is 
> when you need both a parent and child part of the local area to 
> describe a complete address. In Royal Mail's language they use a 
> "thoroughfare" and "dependent thoroughfare" whilst in OpenStreetMap we 
> seem to have multiple tag options. For the OSM UK project we want to 
> keep it simple and not bombard new mappers with the details of 
> conflicting / inconsistent OSM tags. As such we plan to use addr:place 
> (child) and addr:street (parent) for these parent and child relationships.
>
> Please let me know if you have any feedback. I will try my utmost to 
> take this on board but a word of warning: I have found OSM tags to be 
> inconsistent and not straightforward. I will try my best but cannot 
> work miracles even at this time of the year!
>
> P.S. The wiki page is very much focussed on the top part of an 
> address. This is intentional as it is what we will focus on in the OSM 
> UK project. These address parts require ground survey (or local 
> knowledge) whereas some of the lower elements of an address can be 
> determined by admin boundaries / nearness to existing OSM data.
>
> Thank you
> *Rob*
>
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