[Talk-GB] NaPTAN Data

Ian Caldwell ian1caldwell+OSM at googlemail.com
Tue Feb 16 15:25:40 UTC 2021


There are some bus stops round here in Worcestershire that have not
been used for a few years but are still there on the ground.

Ian


On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 15:04, Ed Loach <edloach at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jay asked:
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> > Opps, I've been deleting bus stop nodes if NaPTAN says del. Should I go back and restore them, adding the lifecycle prefix?
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> I'm not sure a lifecycle prefix is necessary - if it still exists on the ground it is still a bus stop even if it isn't currently used as one by scheduled services - it might be used by local community transport services on an irregular unscheduled basis for example. I used to delete stops with a modification status of del, but have had to reinstate a few later and so read the Naptan spec (yawn) which says:
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> Delete - If the element is being rendered inactive. Records marked as deleted should continue to be exported in subsequent data exchanges. It is possible to reactivate deleted stops: a reactivated stop has a status of revise, (not new).
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> Since then I'll more likely add naptan:status=del and add a note that the stop needs surveying:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1670216
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/474893142/history
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> I wouldn't go to a great effort to find which ones you've removed (or more accurately I'm not intending to make a great effort to find the ones I've removed) - if bus routes get added/maintained (which is pretty much a weekly task) you'll find any that have been reactivated soon enough.
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> Ed
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