[Talk-GB] Import of Cyclehoop Bike Hangars

[Steven Hirschorn]

Thanks for the reply, Martin. Love your app/website!

I haven't heard back from Cyclehoop since the reply I sent them on 3rd
Feb. I've since discovered that the entire dataset is downloadable
anyway via their map (there's a JSON file of all locations returned in
an XHR request). I loaded this into Data Science Suite and have been
able to get stats from the dataset identifying which local authorities
have the largest rollout (from memory, Hackney and Southwark with
around 400 hangars, my LA, Ealing still with a relatively patchy
deployment of 37 hangars, almost all full)

I don't know until they reply if there is licence taint, but was
thinking of loading the data file into JOSM to locate hangars that are
visible from Bing imagery and adding those, and adding #surveyme notes
to others?

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 17:58, Martin - CycleStreets
<list-osm-talk-gb at cyclestreets.net> wrote:
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> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, Steven Hirschorn wrote:
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> > I've emailed Cyclehoop (who build, install and maintain bike storage
> > hangars around the country, available to residents via subscription),
> > to ask if they could provide a dataset that I could conflate and
> > import into OSM.
>
> Definitely +1 from us on this.
>
>
> > They've asked some questions about what the community benefit is in
> > including them in OSM, and I was wondering if anyone has some standard
> > text they use? In the case of these hangars, I can think of a few
> > benefits, such as the ability to process the data (which I've been
> > doing to lobby my councillors for more hangars - "only 20% of homes in
> > the area live within 100m of a hangar and it is probably at capacity
> > anyway"), the potential of having a map that can show you where your
> > nearest hangar is without having to search multiple websites of
> > different providers to find the nearest one. Plus the fact that OSM
> > supplies the data that is already used by many cycle routing apps like
> > OpenCycleMap, CyclOSM and CycleStreets.
>
> I see the main benefit as for campaigners who want more of this kind of
> provision, and thus ultimately for citizens who have bikes or might buy a
> bike if they thus had a reasonable degree of confidence it wouldn't get
> nicked.
>
> Some Boroughs/Councils are really ramping up provision of these. Others,
> like Cambridge where we live, haven't even started (here it takes 2 years
> of dealing with ludicrous NIMBY objections to get even a single parking
> space converted to secure cycle parking, even in areas with very high cycle
> theft levels).
>
> Researchers also could use such data, because cycle parking is one
> indicator of cycle-friendliness of a council, and indeed such data would
> show areas where provision is poor (as per your example). It could also be
> used to verify the effects of theft reduction work against police
> statistics.
>
> Cyclehoop ought to welcome such uses, because frankly it will result in
> more demand for their product!
>
> Mappers should be aiming to get these on the map anyway, irrespective of
> whether Cyclehoop could help shortcut the process to do so more quickly.
>
>
> Martin,                     **  CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By Cyclists
> Developer, CycleStreets     **  https://www.cyclestreets.net/
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