[Talk-GB] Import of Cyclehoop Bike Hangars

[Gareth L]

Martin, do you know if these hangars were included in the tfl cycle infrastructure surveys?

Thanks,
Gareth

> On 22 Feb 2021, at 13:25, Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply, Martin. Love your app/website!
> 
> I haven't heard back from Cyclehoop since the reply I sent them on 3rd
> Feb. I've since discovered that the entire dataset is downloadable
> anyway via their map (there's a JSON file of all locations returned in
> an XHR request). I loaded this into Data Science Suite and have been
> able to get stats from the dataset identifying which local authorities
> have the largest rollout (from memory, Hackney and Southwark with
> around 400 hangars, my LA, Ealing still with a relatively patchy
> deployment of 37 hangars, almost all full)
> 
> I don't know until they reply if there is licence taint, but was
> thinking of loading the data file into JOSM to locate hangars that are
> visible from Bing imagery and adding those, and adding #surveyme notes
> to others?
> 
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 17:58, Martin - CycleStreets
>> <list-osm-talk-gb at cyclestreets.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, Steven Hirschorn wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've emailed Cyclehoop (who build, install and maintain bike storage
>>> hangars around the country, available to residents via subscription),
>>> to ask if they could provide a dataset that I could conflate and
>>> import into OSM.
>> 
>> Definitely +1 from us on this.
>> 
>> 
>>> They've asked some questions about what the community benefit is in
>>> including them in OSM, and I was wondering if anyone has some standard
>>> text they use? In the case of these hangars, I can think of a few
>>> benefits, such as the ability to process the data (which I've been
>>> doing to lobby my councillors for more hangars - "only 20% of homes in
>>> the area live within 100m of a hangar and it is probably at capacity
>>> anyway"), the potential of having a map that can show you where your
>>> nearest hangar is without having to search multiple websites of
>>> different providers to find the nearest one. Plus the fact that OSM
>>> supplies the data that is already used by many cycle routing apps like
>>> OpenCycleMap, CyclOSM and CycleStreets.
>> 
>> I see the main benefit as for campaigners who want more of this kind of
>> provision, and thus ultimately for citizens who have bikes or might buy a
>> bike if they thus had a reasonable degree of confidence it wouldn't get
>> nicked.
>> 
>> Some Boroughs/Councils are really ramping up provision of these. Others,
>> like Cambridge where we live, haven't even started (here it takes 2 years
>> of dealing with ludicrous NIMBY objections to get even a single parking
>> space converted to secure cycle parking, even in areas with very high cycle
>> theft levels).
>> 
>> Researchers also could use such data, because cycle parking is one
>> indicator of cycle-friendliness of a council, and indeed such data would
>> show areas where provision is poor (as per your example). It could also be
>> used to verify the effects of theft reduction work against police
>> statistics.
>> 
>> Cyclehoop ought to welcome such uses, because frankly it will result in
>> more demand for their product!
>> 
>> Mappers should be aiming to get these on the map anyway, irrespective of
>> whether Cyclehoop could help shortcut the process to do so more quickly.
>> 
>> 
>> Martin,                     **  CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By Cyclists
>> Developer, CycleStreets     **  https://www.cyclestreets.net/
>> 
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