[Talk-GB] Google maps added addresses!

[Simon Poole]

I've always thought that a cut down version of 
https://osmybiz.osm.ch/#/18/47.18682/8.39773 or similar could work for 
this, I've actually been holding on to a domain for this for years 
(addmyaddress.org) that could be used.

Simon

Am 29.12.2020 um 16:41 schrieb Jez Nicholson:
> +1 for Vespucci's number prediction. Remember to add house names too, 
> as these are what other sources will lack.
>
> As the Rob's questions about scaling. Perhaps the answer is to 
> leverage an existing social network? Say one that uses OSM for its 
> maps? That would give you access to 1/3 of the population overnight.
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 14:50 Simon Poole, <simon at poole.ch 
> <mailto:simon at poole.ch>> wrote:
>
>
>     Am 29.12.2020 um 11:18 schrieb George Honeywood:
>>     Hi Simon,
>>
>>     What tools do you use for this? In the summer I decided to survey
>>     about 400 addresses in Bodmin, and it was a rather painful (and
>>     long) morning. I ended up walking down each street two times to
>>     get both sides, and spent quite a while dealing with
>>     weird/backwards numbering -- or numbers that just weren't there.
>
>     Well I typically use Vespucci which has the advantage that you have
>
>     - aerial imagery as the background so placing nodes or selecting
>     the proper building outline isn't an issue,
>
>     - house number prediction. That is you only need to manually
>     correct numbers that don't fit, and will automatically take the
>     side of the road in to account. So if you can see the numbers on
>     the other side you just need to walk down the street once.
>
>     See
>     http://vespucci.io/help/en/Introduction/#efficiently-adding-addresses
>     <http://vespucci.io/help/en/Introduction/#efficiently-adding-addresses>
>     and
>     http://vespucci.io/help/en/Advanced%20preferences/#address-tags
>     <http://vespucci.io/help/en/Advanced%20preferences/#address-tags>
>
>     Simon
>
>>
>>     This was using StreetComplete after adding geometries using JOSM,
>>     and I fear that it would've been much harder to place the
>>     addresses without them.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     George Honeywood
>>
>>     On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, at 8:28 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>>
>>>     At the danger of pointing out the blatantly obvious: you can
>>>     easily survey and add addresses as stand alone nodes without
>>>     adding buildings before.
>>>
>>>     It is quite a fast process and, at least for me, is only limited
>>>     by walking speed and getting distracted by other details which
>>>     you tend to only see when surveying on foot. It is what we used
>>>     to do before aerial imagery was widely available and will result
>>>     in fully functional routing. Given how painful correcting
>>>     building geometries is I would always prefer an address node
>>>     over mapping a building outline from a sub-par source.
>>>
>>>     Simon
>>>
>>>     Am 28.12.2020 um 17:21 schrieb Rob Nickerson:
>>>>     Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>     I just spotted that Google Maps has added house numbers to
>>>>     their map of the UK. They are all over the place - does anyone
>>>>     recognise the source?
>>>>
>>>>     What can we do to improve coverage of addresses in OSM? I
>>>>     notice that we have some pretty good aerial imagery now. Should
>>>>     we see if we can get good building outline from an AI / machine
>>>>     learning approach? If the quality is good we can then use these
>>>>     to help add addresses. For example we can ask new mappers to
>>>>     add addresses using tools such as StreetComplete.
>>>>
>>>>     Any thoughts much appreciated. I have a feeling that if we can
>>>>     come up with a plan we may be able to get some help from
>>>>     several of the big tech companies now interested in the UK. It
>>>>     would be better if we were steering this rather than it
>>>>     happening to us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Best wishes,
>>>>     *Rob*
>>>>
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