[Talk-GB] Cycling in Parks

[Chris Hodges]

I can always check stuff on Komoot too.  That's OSM data and passes more 
underlying info on to the user than others I've used

On 13/01/2021 13:51, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 13/01/2021 13:33, Steven Hirschorn wrote:
>> I have two parks near me that are almost adjoining. I believe they
>> apply the same bylaws, which prohibit cycling. However, I've not heard
>> of the bylaw being enforced and the local council are trying to
>> encourage cycling so I believe it wouldn't be enforced unless combined
>> with anti social behaviour (and I've heard similar from someone who
>> would know).
>>
>> One park previously had all its paths marked as highway=cycleway and
>> the other as highway=footway, bicycle=yes.
>
> "=yes" would imply a legal right of access, which doesn't sound 
> correct here.
>
>
>> highway=cycleway seems to
>> be too strong as they are not designated cycle paths. highway=footway
>> would not permit bikes at all. Combining a footway with bicycle=yes or
>> bicycle=permissive seems the right balance to me of de jure and de
>> facto rules,
> ... and to me, perhaps with a note saying that while cycling is de 
> jure prohibited it is actually de facto permitted (or even encouraged)
>> but I'm not sure of the impact on rendering (I know not
>> to tag for the renderer)
>
> Different renderers will I'm sure do different things.  There are a 
> number of cycle maps around, and I'd hope they'd all show 
> "bicycle=permissive" as "somewhere that you can cycle", but I've never 
> seen a good summary of exactly what will appear as what comparing 
> various cycle maps (though some will have legends of course).
>
>
>> or on a cycle routing engine.
>
> again, depends on the router - in a perfect world I'd expect it to be 
> routable but with a penalty compared to a "real" cycleway. You can 
> test this yourself at osm.org - using taginfo and overpass, find a 
> "highway=footway; bicycle=permissive" that has been that way for a 
> while and see if either of the two bicycle routers available from 
> osm.org route over it,
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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