[Talk-GB] Listed buildings info licence [from: Historic England - tagging guidelines - can we agree on the English usage]

[Edward Bainton]

I like the full name and I like the GB namespace.

May I fork the thread and ask about listed buildings generally?

There's a useful website that claims its info on listed stuff comes from
the Open Government licence.
https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about

I see the wiki says OGL needs reviewing case-by-case.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence

Any views on whether it's safe to include data from that site (or from the
source Crown Copyright sites) in the map?

Eg, there are some tags I'd like to include on Ivor House in Taunton.
https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101059941-ivor-house-taunton-deane-taunton-manor-and-wilton-ward

If anyone can give me a steer on how to map the many building parts, that
would be great: all of it is now mosque; only the older part is listed.
I've used building:part=yes but I think that's probably not right/not
sufficient.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/706193210




On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 13:17, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also think that full name should be used for heritage:operator=Historic
> England
>
> I would like refs to be GB namespaced.... ref:GB:he, ref:GB:hs,
> ref:GB:cadw, ref:GB:niea
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 1:11 PM Mark Goodge <mark at good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 21/07/2021 11:51, Tony Shield wrote:
>> > -------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > There is clear conflict between heritage:operator with values of
>> > Historic England and he.
>> >
>> > References are using the tags HE_ref or ref:he with the same value.
>> >
>> > Data Integrity suggests using one method of tagging and having the
>> > documentation clear about which tagging to use.
>> >
>> > Can we discuss with a view to agreeing one method - the Global heritage
>> > style or the UK listed status style?
>>
>> My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is that the value of
>> heritage:operator should be the normal English name, not an
>> abbreviation. So
>>
>> heritage:operator=Historic England
>> heritage:operator=Cadw
>> heritage:operator=Historic Environment Scotland
>> heritage:operator=Northern Ireland Environment Agency
>>
>> but the ref tag should follow the global pattern, rather than creating
>> new tags, and use abbreviations. So, for example:
>>
>> ref:he=12345
>> ref:hs=LB2345
>> ref:cadw=34567
>> ref:niea=55643
>>
>> This makes for consistency and better machine reading of the data, while
>> preserving human readability of tag values.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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