[Talk-GB] Listed buildings info licence [from: Historic England - tagging guidelines - can we agree on the English usage]

Mark Goodge mark at good-stuff.co.uk
Wed Jul 21 14:38:29 UTC 2021



On 21/07/2021 14:55, Edward Bainton wrote:
> I like the full name and I like the GB namespace.
> 
> May I fork the thread and ask about listed buildings generally?
> 
> There's a useful website that claims its info on listed stuff comes from 
> the Open Government licence.
> https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about 
> <https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about>
> 
> I see the wiki says OGL needs reviewing case-by-case.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence>
> 
> Any views on whether it's safe to include data from that site (or from 
> the source Crown Copyright sites) in the map?

The Historic England downloadable data is OGL:

https://historicengland.org.uk/terms/website-terms-conditions/data-downloads/

There's the usual disclaimer that if any part of the data is sourced 
from OS, then OS may also assert rights over it. But I think that's just 
backside covering by HE; there doesn't seem to be anything in the data 
that is likely to fall foul of OS rights.

If you actually download the data itself, then the zip file comes with a 
copy of the OGL and a PDF which essentially repeats the page cited above.

> Eg, there are some tags I'd like to include on Ivor House in Taunton.
> https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101059941-ivor-house-taunton-deane-taunton-manor-and-wilton-ward 

What information on there are you specifically interested in? If it 
helps, the data in the grey box is all explicitly OGL - the entry 
details are directly from the bulk downloads (as above), and the 
location data is inferred from ONS and OS open data products as well as 
the Historic Counties Trust. Mapcodes and Pluscodes use the standard 
open source algorithms as per their respective creators.

It has just occurred to me that the credits page doesn't mention these 
additional sources (because, when I originally put the site together, I 
wasn't using them). I do need to update that!

At some point, when I have sufficient circular tuits, I also want to 
cross-reference the Historic England GIS downloads with the ONS and OS 
Open UPRN datasets, to see if I can identify the correct UPRN for each 
entry.

Mark



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